Prussian campaign

[AcidJiles]

I've very much enjoyed reading his report.

I can't help but wonder, however, how much of his campaign is actual gameplay features and how much is literary flourish. He's clearly a great writer, but it makes it hard to discern the core game mechanics churning beneath it.

He said all the events were real and that only the description was embelished.

[AcidJiles]

His Quote: "Wars of succesion are in Empire as a feature, whilst I have added spice for the telling there are no artificial ingredients in this story."

[Polemists]

Oh I know wars of sucession are in, I just think they only occur if you are a monarchy and lose your king.

Though I suppose one could happen if you went from Parlimental Monarchy to Monarchy. The idea being that your nomiating your own king to rule and another nation may try to claim the throne.

It's all pretty interesting and I can't wait to try it out in a couple days

[AcidJiles]

Oh I know wars of sucession are in, I just think they only occur if you are a monarchy and lose your king.

Though I suppose one could happen if you went from Parlimental Monarchy to Monarchy. The idea being that your nomiating your own king to rule and another nation may try to claim the throne.

It's all pretty interesting and I can't wait to try it out in a couple days

Surely if you have a parlimental monarchy you are just making the monarch more powerful not choosing him. The issue would only come up when you went from republic to constituational monarchy as you have no king/queen. Or am I mis-understanding.

[Sol Invictus]

The fall of France to the Dutch is quite disturbing, but I guess we really need to know more about the situation. I assume that the Dutch and British were allies and at war with France and Spain. Any number of other factions could also have been involved. France may have been weakened by a large revolt or some other event. I do hope that the Dutch are quickly sent packing by the good citoyens of Paris, because if the Dutch can hold down France and Spain for more than a few turns, this will require some modding.

I think it would be better if the Major Western Factions all had a few Border Regions added so that they would have some strategic depth. This would also create more Regions that could be haggled over during a Peace negotiation. With those additions, I would personally like for the Capital Region to be made non-annexable; if possible. No Major Faction should ever be completely annexed for even a short time. Also add in Seasonal turns and I think ETW will be a near perfect game which I will play for years.

[A Very Super Market]

Oh, yes. Seasonal turns..... *Drools

I am quite surprised that France fell to the Dutch. Presumably, after 70 years of war with them, its completely possible. However, can the AI actually keep order in France? If not, it will only be a matter of years before the French simply rise up again.

[Freedom Onanist]

Oh I know wars of sucession are in, I just think they only occur if you are a monarchy and lose your king.

Though I suppose one could happen if you went from Parlimental Monarchy to Monarchy. The idea being that your nomiating your own king to rule and another nation may try to claim the throne.

It's all pretty interesting and I can't wait to try it out in a couple days

Don't understand your point? Constitutional monarchies can nominate their own (constitutional) monarchs. That's the point, Parliament is asserting its supremacy, we gave you the job, we can take it back.

Britain starts off with a monarch who got the job by invitation, William of Orange, and later those weirdo Germans the Hanovers. i suppose someone else might have objected tot he apparent creation of a political block England + Holland, or Britain + Hanover?

Not sure what you meant though.

[Fisherking]

No wonder they cut out the part after 1800!

Bonaparte trashed the whole system! Took a republic and made himself Emperor…

[Meneldil]

Oh yeah, the United Provinces conquering all of western Europe


When will they decide to fix the whole 'a country conquer half the world' flaw? It's already annoying enough that the player can do it so easily, leading to a bi or tripolarized world most of the time.

[Greyblades]

Well I think that if it becomes like that then I'm going to have to spend time keeping expansionists in check each game to keep it worth playing.
Ironic that the British were essentially keeping the europeans from taking over their neigbours, at the time, aswell... even if it was to stop them from attacking Britain instead of keeping it all fun.

[Sir Beane]

Oh yeah, the United Provinces conquering all of western Europe


When will they decide to fix the whole 'a country conquer half the world' flaw? It's already annoying enough that the player can do it so easily, leading to a bi or tripolarized world most of the time.

That's less of a flaw and more like the premise of the game really. The clue is in the title, Total War. The aim of the game is to conquer the world. I don't mind if they make it a little harder to do so, but I don't think the game would be as good if you couldn't.

I doubt they will ever 'fix' that paticular part of the game, because there are many people who don't regard it as a problem.

[Meneldil]

That's less of a flaw and more like the premise of the game really. The clue is in the title, Total War. The aim of the game is to conquer the world. I don't mind if they make it a little harder to do so, but I don't think the game would be as good if you couldn't.

I doubt they will ever 'fix' that paticular part of the game, because there are many people who don't regard it as a problem.

If I play a game with a whole lot of factions (how many are announced for ETW? 40 or 50 right?), it's not to end up fighting the 3 same ones in every campaign I play, or to have half of them destroyed in the first 20 turns.

In MTW, every campaign was doomed to end up in a clash between the player, who owned half the world, and another faction (Egypt, Byzantium, France, the Almohads or Britain) who owned the other half.
In RTW, it was Rome, the Seleukids or Egypt.
I have never played a whole campaign of M2TW (for reasons explained in other topics), but from what I heard, the powerhouses were France, Egypt, Byzantium and Poland.

Things got even worse in RTW and M2TW because of the lack of reemerging faction and of the poor AI.

So yeah. I understand that, for the player, the perspective of conquering the known world might be entertaining. But for god's sake, I don't want to have to fight the same 3 factions in every game because all other ones have been annexed in less than 20 turns.

Furthermore, given how warfare evolved after the middle age, I think it would be about time to have peace treaties a la Europa Universalis.

Yeah!

Never mind that lousy little Corsican did it once and tried a second time!

None of those other little countries should be able to do THAT!

Right?

Right, except for a few points.
Like:
- Napoleon never ruled personally over most of the territories he conquered, but rather installed puppet/allied governments
- the territory of France itself did not increase that much
- these conquests took part during a completely different era. The French Revolution, Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité, human rights, the idea of nation and all these universal claims that did not exist one century earlier. Napoleon would never have gotten that much support without these ideas.

So even though Napoleon conquered most of Europe, it wasn't done in a Total War 'I took your cities so you don't exist anymore' way, far from it.

[Sir Beane]

If I play a game with a whole lot of factions (how many are announced for ETW? 40 or 50 right?), it's not to end up fighting the 3 same ones in every campaign I play, or to have half of them destroyed in the first 20 turns.

In MTW, every campaign was doomed to end up in a clash between the player, who owned half the world, and another faction (Egypt, Byzantium, France, the Almohads or Britain) who owned the other half.
In RTW, it was Rome, the Seleukids or Egypt.
I have never played a whole campaign of M2TW (for reasons explained in other topics), but from what I heard, the powerhouses were France, Egypt, Byzantium and Poland.

Things got even worse in RTW and M2TW because of the lack of reemerging faction and of the poor AI.

So yeah. I understand that, for the player, the perspective of conquering the known world might be entertaining. But for god's sake, I don't want to have to fight the same 3 factions in every game because all other ones have been annexed in less than 20 turns.

Furthermore, given how warfare evolved after the middle age, I think it would be about time to have peace treaties a la Europa Universalis.

I can support not having to fight the same few factions over and over again. Hopefully the fact that the AI is less dubious about alliances will go someway to stopping one faction rolling over the entire map.

I would hope that half way through the game the majority of the starting factions are still around, I like my map to have variety.

Med 2 wasn't so bad for having one paticular faction always win. Most campaigns did end with very few factions left, but usally because of the player rather than the AI.

I'm reasonably confident that factions won't disappear too easily in ETW. Especially given the ablity of factions to re-appear in loyalist rebellions. We shall have to wait and see I think.

[A Very Super Market]

Hopefully, it will be diplomacy that determines what nations succeed, and not coded aggresiveness. Milan

[Monk]

Hopefully, it will be diplomacy that determines what nations succeed, and not coded aggresiveness. Milan

I can practically feel the hatred in this post.

Here here!

[Fisherking]

Oh yeah, the United Provinces conquering all of western Europe


When will they decide to fix the whole 'a country conquer half the world' flaw? It's already annoying enough that the player can do it so easily, leading to a bi or tripolarized world most of the time.

Yeah!

Never mind that lousy little Corsican did it once and tried a second time!

None of those other little countries should be able to do THAT!

Right?