Prussian campaign

**BeeSting** · 03-02-2009, 18:02

Originally Posted by andrewt

What's the point of playing the game if everything will happen the same as it did in history?

Besides, just because Napoleon came a century later doesn't mean that it was impossible to do that during the game's century. It just means that Napoleon wasn't born yet. There were plenty of other conquerors before this as well, from Rome to the Mongols to the Ottomans. Those were very quick land grabs, where they conquered huge swaths of land in what is only a few turns gameplay wise.

I don't see the problem with removing the uninteresting parts of history that wouldn't make good gameplay. I certainly don't want to run out of gunpowder in battle if I didn't assign enough people to collect horse/bird shit.

I did end up conquering the whole of Iberian peninsula and half of France in EU as the Dutch (my favorite faction btw). But it took me a month of playing before I was able to achieve this.

I bet you anything that I can achieve this in few days with ETW.

More challenge anyone?

**Sir Beane** · 03-02-2009, 18:11

Originally Posted by BeeSting

I did end up conquering the whole of Iberian peninsula and half of France in EU as the Dutch (my favorite faction btw). But it took me a month of playing before I was able to achieve this.

I bet you anything that I can achieve this in few days with ETW.

More challenge anyone?

I don't really have a month or more to waste on one campaign, but I do have a couple of days. And I know there are people out there with much less time than me.

If Empire is as difficult as MTW it will be challenging enough for me I think. If I wanted to be really challanged I would attempt to go annex France in real life

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**BeeSting** · 03-02-2009, 18:16

Originally Posted by Sir Beane

I don't really have a month or more to waste on one campaign, but I do have a couple of days. And I know there are people out there with much less time than me.

If Empire is as difficult as MTW it will be challenging enough for me I think. If I wanted to be really challanged I would attempt to go annex France in real life

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It took me many campaign attempts to do what I did with EUII as Dutch... The starting time was in the 1500's and I had to fight for my independence from Spain, which was the hardest part.

**andrewt** · 03-02-2009, 18:49

Originally Posted by BeeSting

I did end up conquering the whole of Iberian peninsula and half of France in EU as the Dutch (my favorite faction btw). But it took me a month of playing before I was able to achieve this.

I bet you anything that I can achieve this in few days with ETW.

More challenge anyone?

I don't see anything wrong with it. I think 1-2 weeks of heavy playing is how long a long campaign in ETW should last. It's long enough to be immersive without being too long that it becomes bogged down in drudgery. There's 12 factions after all, plenty of other games out there and an inevitable expansion a year down the road.

Besides, accomplishing it in a few days in ETW doesn't mean that it's not challenging. Before he was nerfed, the M'uru fight in World of Warcraft was less than 10 minutes long. It took my guild (top 250 US) roughly 500 attempts spread out over around 14 weeks before we finally beat it.

**Lemur** · 03-02-2009, 18:55

Actually, I always found the "conquer the world" the least interesting part of the TW games. Except maybe Shogun, where unification of Japan really was the goal of all the daimyo. And playing as the Romans, I suppose, where a certain amount of crazy land-grabbing felt in character.

I'm glad that annexing all of Europe isn't the only path to glory in Empire.

**Sir Beane** · 03-02-2009, 19:13

Originally Posted by Lemur

Actually, I always found the "conquer the world" the least interesting part of the TW games. Except maybe Shogun, where unification of Japan really was the goal of all the daimyo. And playing as the Romans, I suppose, where a certain amount of crazy land-grabbing felt in character.

I'm glad that annexing all of Europe isn't the only path to glory in Empire.

I prefer to take ove a small, realistic area of a territory. Like the reconquista or uniting Britian. But I still think being able to take over the whole word is a reasonable goal, it is a game after all.

I'm really looking forward to being able to win in more ways than just a landgrab. I want to win because of trade and my superbly cultured citizenry, not just because I had a bigger army than the next guy.

**Greyblades** · 03-02-2009, 19:16

Having a bigger army helps though

Allthough I think I will be more interested in quality of troops than quantity; a mob is nice and threatening but they break easily.

**Sir Beane** · 03-02-2009, 19:20

Originally Posted by Greyblades

Having a bigger army helps though

Allthough I think I will be more interested in quality of troops than quantity; a mob is nice and threatening but they break easily.

Me to. I prefer a small, organised force of elite experienced units to a mob. Its also more fun to fight outnumbered, and more satisfying when you win.

**Greyblades** · 03-02-2009, 19:26

And thanks to the greater moral the last-stands, should I ever have to fight them, are even more satisfying as your troops are "fighting to the last" not running around like headless chickens.