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[Vlad Tzepes]

I don't like it either, the idea of downloading a digital copy, but down here, in the EU's Far East (Romania), there's no other way to legally get ETW sooner than through Steam.

So I pre-ordered and everything... I'll wait till tomorrow now... I'll use the .Org as my game manual (much better, anyway)... And I'll most probably get a disc in about 6 months, when they go to sales :)

[Monk]

Ouch, that sucks. I'm an older jaded gamer, and have never done a digital download because I like being able to physically hold the box and disc... evidence like this makes me contemplate whether I will do a digital purchase in the foreseeable future.

I really don't see any advantage to doing a digital purchase like through steam? It's the same price... but you don't get box, discs, manual, etc. Maybe not having to drive to the store to pick it up is an advantage, but hardly worth the aforementioned disadvantages, unless it's a more obscure game that isn't available at the local store... or maybe if they charged $20 less to reflect their lower overhead, otherwise it seems a bit of a rip off.

It was my understanding that there was going to be a pre-load for the game, so you could be ready to go the moment the game was unlocked on steam which was a big reason why I bought with steam. Now that feature seems to not be present it does make me feel a bit disappointed, but I was still going to spend $50+ on this game anyway so I don't really feel "ripped off". If I had bought the SF edition on Steam I certainly would! But I opted for normal.

I don't feel I missed out on anything by not getting the manual, having the disc is probably the only thing I feel I got aced out of. Having bought with steam before, though, that doesn't bother me to a great degree. Fallout 3 and left 4 dead are just as enjoyable without a disc as they are with, and I'm sure ETW will be too.

All that said, it's really about preference which way you go. The boxed copy still has that tangible pro to it which is certainly nice.

[Styles]

For myself I dont care for the preload I decided to buy a box and it will arrive tomorow. But I care for those players that bought it on steam.

Even if it was anounced by CA and not steam it doesnt make it any better. They should have clarified it sooner but I bet it was far more tempting to get 10 bucks more for the game in hope that most buyers are "I dont care" customers.

[Fisherking]

Hmm, I may wind up eating a pug after all ...

No carnivores Lemurs allowed…think veggie man!

All you dudes….a deep breath and OOOOMMMMM, OOOOOOMMM

Out with the bad vibes man…chill, chill…everything is groovy man…

Think good vibes man…Tomorrow it all goes great!

Good vibes man!

Deeeep Breath and hold it!

Chough* this stuff is a killer man! Cough*cough*

Good Vibes Man!

Cool!

[Lemur]

Let's have a little calm, please. We're still going to get the game, and we're still going to play it on Wednesday. I'm certain CA had no intent to deceive, and equally certain that this is the sort of intra-corporate fumble familiar to anyone who's ever worked in a large business.

Nobody has betrayed us, nobody has lied to us, and we're all going to get what we paid for. It's all good. Seriously, it's all good.

[Monk]

No carnivores Lemurs allowed…think veggie man!

All you dudes….a deep breath and OOOOMMMMM, OOOOOOMMM

Out with the bad vibes man…chill, chill…everything is groovy man…

Think good vibes man…Tomorrow it all goes great!

Good vibes man!

Deeeep Breath and hold it!

Chough* this stuff is a killer man! Cough*cough*

Good Vibes Man!

Cool!

Dr. Feelgood, ladies and gentlemen!

Even if it was anounced by CA and not steam it doesnt make it any better. They should have clarified it sooner but I bet it was far more tempting to get 10 bucks more for the game in hope that most buyers are "I dont care" customers.

Oh, without a doubt I am frustrated that CA appears to have "jumped the gun" before they got the okay from steam. It was my understanding Steam was on-board with such an offer, it appears they were not. Still despite that frustration and outright disappointment, I'm not gonna let it damper my enthusiasm for the game. I'll let release day be the judge.

[Relic]

I quite like Steam.
I've used it since September (almost everyday) and had it since Decemember '07. Honestly, I think its a brilliant thing. Is waiting an extra day or two honestly going to kill you?!

[Styles]

Well the game itself and the business policies of CA and Valve/Steam are two different shoes.

I dont judge the game by that but I'm not very tolerant with that kind of making business and the absolute lack of customer service by steam.

It will be even worse on release if the download does not work properly. I can hear the voices of a thousand people crying out in pain because of the horrific download speed

[Matteo123]

But this screws over all of us who took the day off.


No bashing CA please. -- Martok

[Monk]

Well the game itself and the business policies of CA and Valve/Steam are two different shoes.

I dont judge the game by that but I'm not very tolerant with that kind of making business and the absolute lack of customer service by steam.

It will be even worse on release if the download does not work properly. I can hear the voices of a thousand people crying out in pain because of the horrific download speed

I understand your concerns perfectly, but I personally am taking the advice of my Grandfather on this matter. "We'll cross that bridge when we come to it." What bridge was he talking about? if I know, I just know there's no point in speculating about what might go wrong until we're in that position!

Murphy isn't always right.

Edit:

Like I said. There's no reason to resort to CA bashing at all, it's an unfortunate mishap. If you took the day off then, well, enjoy the day off in other ways while ETW downloads! I know this may sound horribly cliche, but maybe visit a park or take a moment to sgaze at nature. It's snowing here in Ohio, but it's still a beautiful sight.

[Graphic]

Let's have a little calm, please. We're still going to get the game, and we're still going to play it on Wednesday. I'm certain CA had no intent to deceive, and equally certain that this is the sort of intra-corporate fumble familiar to anyone who's ever worked in a large business.

Nobody has betrayed us, nobody has lied to us, and we're all going to get what we paid for. It's all good. Seriously, it's all good.

I agree with this sentiment

[Styles]

Good idea Monk I will visit then our museum with the largest roman toilet north of the alps until I can play my boxed version of Empire!

[Terraforce]

http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/topic...-on-Steam.html

According to this people who bought the digital copy will not be able to download until release day.

[Matteo123]

The problem is that today we are promised X, are given less than X, and those that point out they are given less are told to just accept it. If I promised to paint your house for $100 by Thursday so you could have a party and I paint only 3 sides, wouldn't you be mad even if I came back a few days after the party to finish? Doesn't part of the $100 include payment to get it painted by Thursday? It's the same thing here. We paid $50 to start DLing now and now we are told we will get it later, part of our $50 includes the right to DL it now. We should get some kind of refund just as the homeowner would demand part of his $100 back.

[batemonkey]

But this screws over all of us who took the day off. I assume CA is ready these forums and they are cowards for not responding and waiting this long to respond.

Thats why i took friday, incase of unforseen delays, oohhh i'm so excited!

i feel abit like a four year old waiting for crimbo

[Lemur]

We should get some kind of refund just as the homeowner would demand part of his $100 back.

You're still going to have your house painted by the agreed time. A better analogy:

You pay $100 to have your house painted (quite a bargain, BTW). The painters tell you they're going to prep your house on Monday and paint it on Wednesday. Turns out they can't get the van on Monday, so they're going to prep and paint on Wednesday. You throw a fit and demand your money back.

Gotta tell you, you'd be laughed out of small claims court. They're still going to deliver the goods on the said day, they just had to change how they went about doing it.

[Matteo123]

But we aren't getting the game when it is released, that is what we were promised. We instead need to DL it with 100000000000 other people so we won't be able to play until Wed night or Thurs morning. So we are not going to be able to play when we were promised so my analogy still applies.

[quadalpha]

Here's a plan: throw up a big big fuss about it so everyone cancels their Steam orders, then it'll download really quickly for the rest of us!

[Lemur]

You are assuming the download will be a disaster. That's possible, but unproven. Let's see how it goes on the day, and then we can whine and moan with rather more justice.

[Monk]

You are assuming the download will be a disaster. That's possible, but unproven. Let's see how it goes on the day, and then we can whine and moan with rather more justice.

Even then when people were experiencing terrible download speeds from steam with the demo, due to high volume, switching steam download servers was a really good way to boost your speed.

I have no reason to believe the same solution wouldn't work here.

[Sir Beane]

I have to say this is a poke in the eye for both those who ordered the game off Steam, and for CA. If CA thought there was gonig to be a 48 hour preload they are probably pretty damn annoyed at Steam to. After all this reflects badly on them, and their choice of delivery platform.

Honestly though this will only impact when you get to play the game by about a day at most. I know we are all desperate to play it, but is one day really than important?

In a months time when you have Empire sitting on your hard drive and you are marching your men around Europe you won't care about the extra time it took to download. You'll be too busy enjoying what looks to be one of the best strategy games ever made.

[Martok]

With apologies to those who've been carrying on a reasoned conversation, I'm closing this thread -- at least for the time being. I've had to issue several warnings/infractions for various violations, so I think it's best if this thread took a nap until people have calmed down some.