Violent people

[edyzmedieval]

Lately I have been having a serious conflict with one of my classmates, which I will not discuss here in detail, but since I am out of ideas on how to deal with the person, I'm looking for alternative ideas, how do you guys take care of these interesting problems. Full out fighting would result in expulsion so i'm not even considering that.

So how do you handle it when you receive a punch in the face and then an honest "I don't regret at all what I have done" in your face afterwards? Note: this person does not understand what "leave me alone please" is.
Any ideas?

[SwordsMaster]

Lately I have been having a serious conflict with one of my classmates, which I will not discuss here in detail, but since I am out of ideas on how to deal with the person, I'm looking for alternative ideas, how do you guys take care of these interesting problems. Full out fighting would result in expulsion so i'm not even considering that.

So how do you handle it when you receive a punch in the face and then an honest "I don't regret at all what I have done" in your face afterwards? Note: this person does not understand what "leave me alone please" is.
Any ideas?

Wait for him outside school and THEN get into a fight.

[CountArach]

Violence begets violence. Escalation is exacly what this person wants you to do.

[Fragony]

Yes, a frontal punch right on the chin (90 degrees you have to slap the jaw back) will knock out everybody unless he's wearing a bit, brain can't handle it and just shuts down. Another precision instrument, when you give a push, push upward with your palms. You want the area where the arm and chest connect right under the chest muscles, won't be able to use his arms for a few minutes, practise with a friend so you will know the spot. 99% of martial arts is absolute nonsense, these two are a 100% victory no matter how big someone is, best way to deal with agression is being even more agressive

Full out fighting would result in expulsion so i'm not even considering that.

it wouldn't be much of a fight trust me.

And do you really think this guy is going to do the boohooohooo at the principles office?

[Lemur]

Any ideas?

If direct conflict is unworkable, I have only one word for you: Allies.

[pevergreen]

Boarding school, yes?

Shave his eyebrows and hair off while hes sleeping. Or mint toothpaste in his hair. I had that done to me at camp, it burns.

If you want to put him off you, in addition to Fragony's advice, I've always found a punch to the nose works. Eyes water up and you can just push him away and walk away while telling him to piss off or something.

[seireikhaan]

Sneak into his room at night, when he's asleep.

Apply rubber cement all across his hands, then tickle his nose.

[Ibrahim]

Sneak into his room at night, when he's asleep.

Apply rubber cement all across his hands, then tickle his nose.

doch! why didn't I think of that

lot less bloody.

[Lemur]

Yeah, I got the impression that direct physical violence was out of the question. This was the hint:

Full out fighting would result in expulsion so i'm not even considering that.

So as much fun as it is to bop a bully on the nose and send him home crying, that's not an option.

Once again: Allies.

[Fragony]

If you want to put him off you, in addition to Fragony's advice, I've always found a punch to the nose works. Eyes water up and you can just push him away and walk away while telling him to piss off or something.

Yeah but that's not going to keep him away. There is nothing like flooring someone with a single hit he will think Edyz is Hercules reincarnation himself showing a mere mortal it's place in the way of things. Guy sounds like a complete asshole he probably does it to other people as well. Nothing like a bit of humiliation, never listen to your mother when it comes to MANLY issues.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Find an old Chinese man to teach you karate. Or alternatively, just snitch snitch snitch. Make him know if he touches you he'll be straight out the school.

[Hooahguy]

get mace.
or brass knuckles with the engraving "haha" in it.

[Adrian II]

Yeah but that's not going to keep him away.

Seconded.

Pop his nose first, only then will you get allies.

[Ibrahim]

Lately I have been having a serious conflict with one of my classmates, which I will not discuss here in detail, but since I am out of ideas on how to deal with the person, I'm looking for alternative ideas, how do you guys take care of these interesting problems. Full out fighting would result in expulsion so i'm not even considering that.

So how do you handle it when you receive a punch in the face and then an honest "I don't regret at all what I have done" in your face afterwards? Note: this person does not understand what "leave me alone please" is.
Any ideas?

make allies, avoid the guy, and fight outside school.

I had a run in with people like him; one encounter ended with the bully having a pen jabbed into his shoulder...

and if he attacks you in school, don't fight back, but get it to happen in sight of the teacher..you'll end up with a bruise, but you won't be kicked out for fighting-he will.

otherwise I really hate to fight, mostly because that kind of product is typical of a fight(blood)

[Vuk]

Yes, a frontal punch right on the chin (90 degrees you have to slap the jaw back) will knock out everybody unless he's wearing a bit, brain can't handle it and just shuts down. Another precision instrument, when you give a push, push upward with your palms. You want the area where the arm and chest connect right under the chest muscles, won't be able to use his arms for a few minutes, practise with a friend so you will know the spot. 99% of martial arts is absolute nonsense, these two are a 100% victory no matter how big someone is, best way to deal with agression is being even more agressive

Full out fighting would result in expulsion so i'm not even considering that.

it wouldn't be much of a fight trust me.

And do you really think this guy is going to do the boohooohooo at the principles office?

Sorry Frag, but I consider this very bad advice. First of all, Edyz is completely right that a physical confrontation should be avoided unless completely necassary. Second of all, as a guy who has been in LOTS of pretty serious brawls with plenty of pretty able people, who has been a victim of random attack, and who has studied martial arts for years, I take offence with what you said about martial arts. Most martial arts are only as good as these three dependent factors:
1. What they are meant for. If it is Taekwondo, then it is not gonna be good for selfdefense, it is a bloody combat sport for heaven's sake. If it is Hapkido, or Taijichuan, then it is gonna be good for practical situations and serious fights, but no good as a combat sport. Also keep in mind that most martial arts are above all a way of life.
2. The instructor teaching them/the school in which they are taught. There are very few good and truely qualified instructors out there who teach martial arts for their true purpose.
3. The student. If the student sucks, so will the martial art. If the student has misconceptions about the martial art, he will not be able to use it in an effective way.

Keep in mind also that martial arts just add tools to your tool box. You have to practice and be familiar with your tools, so that you know the right ones to use at the right times, and how best to use them. I do not mean to rag on you too much Frag, but such an umbrella statement is highly inaccurate. If you said combat sports do not adequately prepare one to defend onesself in a real life attack, then I would agree.

Lately I have been having a serious conflict with one of my classmates, which I will not discuss here in detail, but since I am out of ideas on how to deal with the person, I'm looking for alternative ideas, how do you guys take care of these interesting problems. Full out fighting would result in expulsion so i'm not even considering that.

So how do you handle it when you receive a punch in the face and then an honest "I don't regret at all what I have done" in your face afterwards? Note: this person does not understand what "leave me alone please" is.
Any ideas?

Edyz, my best advice would be to avoid a fight if you can. A fight will probably only make things worse. On the other hand, if you need to defend yourself, do so, but only do what you need to defend yourself. When someone punches you in the face and you do nothing at all, then they think of you as a *****. Bullies have a very one track mind, and if they think that they can push you around, they will.
I am not suggesting that you attack him, but from what you have told me, I think you have two options next time he tries that:
1. Do not be afraid to report him, encourage witnesses, and even consider pursuing him legally. Bullies use people's fear of being called cowards to control them, the cruel irony being that they then become cowards under the bully's control.
2. Physically do what it take to avoid the hit, get him away from, and let him know that he cannot attack you without consequences. If you are surrounded by his friends, you do not want to get into a physical confrontation with him. If you can ward his attack or counter with a crippling attack of your own, then tell him to **** off and leave you alone.

I would tell you as general advice to stop hanging around with, and try to avoid being in the same places as him if possible. Also, try to be around friends or aqquaintances of your own more. Also, if possible, stay in public areas and around authority figures.
It is not being a coward Edyz, it is being smart. I have been in plenty of fights in my pretty short life, and got the better of most of them, but if I could change the way things happen, I would not have been in any. I have gotten smarter lately as I have taken martial arts more seriously, and haven't been in a fight for 2 and a half years.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Lately I have been having a serious conflict with one of my classmates, which I will not discuss here in detail, but since I am out of ideas on how to deal with the person, I'm looking for alternative ideas, how do you guys take care of these interesting problems. Full out fighting would result in expulsion so i'm not even considering that.

So how do you handle it when you receive a punch in the face and then an honest "I don't regret at all what I have done" in your face afterwards? Note: this person does not understand what "leave me alone please" is.
Any ideas?

Okay, I'm guessing that that the reason this violent character hasn't been expelled himself is because you haven't told the school officials. Is that correct? Seeing as the school prevents you from defending yourself really, I don't see why not get his sorry butt kicked out. Getting your parents involved in a separate simultaneous complaint would also help. I don't know how he would go about retaliating - but you should prepare as you see necessary in that event (getting allies, learning some self defense arts).

If you don't want to do that, getting some more allies - friends - and being around them helps as well.

Lemur pointed out some good arts, and I would add Brazilian Jujitsu, which really helps with ground wrestling. You said you can't just fight this guy, but even if you never start something, knowing self defense can't hurt. Would you be expelled for something like giving this guy a good shove if he attacked you again? I think the attitude you want is you're not going to take this - it doesn't mean you fight him, but you don't just let him do as he will - you get him in trouble, for example.

Violence begets violence. Escalation is exacly what this person wants you to do.

Hmm. I've always been of the thinking that bullies didn't want a fight, they just wanted to shove people around.

CR

[CountArach]

Hmm. I've always been of the thinking that bullies didn't want a fight, they just wanted to shove people around.

CR

Not in my experience

[Andres]

Well, if he hits you, he'll get expelled, right?

Make sure he gets expelled and the problem is solved.

Really, don't fall for all that teenage testosterone macho nonsense about fighting or martial arts.

This is not a martial arts movie, it's real life. Talk to the authorities and get the idiot expelled. That's the only just course of action. And whoever calls you a 'traitor' or a 'coward' is also an idiot because he/she sympathises with a despicable bully. Nobody should sympathise with a bully. They leave scars on people that stick for the rest of their lives.

Besides, since it's happening now, you don't have the time to master some form of martial arts. If you really must fight (but I strongly advice you not to), then one well placed kick or punch between the legs should do.

[Vuk]

Well, if he hits you, he'll get expelled, right?

Make sure he gets expelled and the problem is solved.

Really, don't fall for all that teenage testosterone macho nonsense about fighting or martial arts.

This is not a martial arts movie, it's real life. Talk to the authorities and get the idiot expelled. That's the only just course of action. And whoever calls you a 'traitor' or a 'coward' is also an idiot because he/she sympathises with a despicable bully. Nobody should sympathise with a bully. They leave scars on people that stick for the rest of their lives.

Besides, since it's happening now, you don't have the time to master some form of martial arts. If you really must fight (but I strongly advice you not to), then one well placed kick or punch between the legs should do.

I agree with Andres on all points but one: hitting between the legs. In my experience this works 5% of the time or less. If you try to strike him between the legs and miss, you will **** him off so bad that he will mess you up really badly if he can. It works all the time in the movies, but this is not the movies. Trust me, it is not worth attempting unless your life/sexual purity is on the line, which it sounds to me like it is not in this case.
And FYI Andres, I suggested that he take martial arts for the long term, so that in situations like this in the future he will be better prepared. As I stated in my post, the most important things martial arts teach you is how to avoid fights and how to get out of them recieving and causing as little damage as possible.

[Beefy187]

In that case, master hypnosis or what ever which will spook him out.

If that doesn't work then use the last resort in the boarding school.. Act gay or really really weird.

[Hax]

If you are willing to break a couple of bones, Ninjutsu will do the job.

My teacher in Kyudo said that Ninjutsu, in the West, is rarely trained in the traditional Japanese style.