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    Quote Originally Posted by loony View Post
    I agree with erebrus that the key to French campaign is a protectorate. Luisiana!

    Capture the regions that bother you in europe and gift them to Luisiana. Capture the required regions to fill the mission and leave one of them (I left aloquin territory) in the hands of the natives. Then, you suddenly capture that last region and double the lands you own.
    Let me disagree. By gifting the regions to Louisiana you still get them back once the Louisiana mission is done. As a result: the nations that lie behind those regions become your enemies by default.

    What I did in my campaign (VH) was different.

    1. As soon as the Dutch declared war on the Spanish (this seems to happen invariably), I moved into the Dutch lands, conquered Amsterdam and gifted it to Wurtemberg in exchange for them becoming my protectorate.

    2. Soon after this happens Westphalia declares war either on you or on Wurtemberg. Destroy Westphalia armies (don't take the capital) and offer them the protectorate. In three French campaigns I started, they always agreed. Actually, in two cases it was THEM who offered the deal to me as soon as I beat their armies.

    What you have as a result is a safe northern border with two puny german protectorates with fragmented territory (Westphalia is between Holland and Wurtemberg) that are at war with each other... It reminded me of Richelieu's "German containment" strategy.
    Last edited by Slaists; 05-19-2009 at 18:36.

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    well, you finish the Luisiana mission in 1749 (or 1799). Those guys do a god job, just need a little help here and there. they are also a great help in the americas, where you can have 1 stack only and with Luisiana's help control the whole continent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaists View Post
    Let me disagree. By gifting the regions to Louisiana you still get them back once the Louisiana mission is done. As a result: the nations that lie behind those regions become your enemies by default.

    What I did in my campaign (VH) was different.

    1. As soon as the Dutch declared war on the Spanish (this seems to happen invariably), I moved into the Dutch lands, conquered Amsterdam and gifted it to Wurtemberg in exchange for them becoming my protectorate.

    2. Soon after this happens Westphalia declares war either on you or on Wurtemberg. Destroy Westphalia armies (don't take the capital) and offer them the protectorate. In three French campaigns I started, they always agreed. Actually, in two cases it was THEM who offered the deal to me as soon as I beat their armies.

    What you have as a result is a safe northern border with two puny german protectorates with fragmented territory (Westphalia is between Holland and Wurtemberg) that are at war with each other... It reminded me of Richelieu's "German containment" strategy.
    I would agree with this, if it wasn't for the simple fact that all that agravation isn't necessary. You can get them both as protectorates from the beginning by investing some money. For that reason, I chose to keep Amsterdam for myself, although the disadvantage was that I had to wait many years until they calmed down. However, my borders with central Europe were always safely kept by Wutemberg and Westphalia (VH/VH)

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    About the not rushing Iruquois .. you're right about that , although you shouldn't wait to long . in my campaign , i'm year 1710 , and Louisiana's already dead (all lands taken) .. Playing on M/H though .

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    It's a different game in 1.3.1. Most comments here were posted before the last patch...

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    In the latest patch france was a cakewalk all the way until 1712 until both the spanish and the prussians decided to declare war on me.

    being simultaneously at war with the austrians and the british i had to sweat for it.

    i think, playing france the main vulnerability is the spanish (allies, allies and the bang, the frenchies are dead). While france invariably fights the british, you give the spanish a little respite, they become strong and get one hell of a navy and zounds of line infantries and guerillas.
    then you have to waste lots of men killing them all and capturing spain.

    in 1719-1720 i captured spain and the game, effectively, ended. yes, there is a lot of unrest and rebel armies pop up and serve as training sessions for my regulars... i still get a lot of taxes, though..

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