The Settlement [Concluded]

**TinCow** · 03-19-2009, 19:49

So let me get this straight. ATPG and Seamus discover that Beefy is the tax collector on the first day phase (since ATPG mentions his duel/challenge fiasco in that dialog, that's where it fits in the timeline). Beefy is then murdered that night. ATPG and Seamus state they are simple shepherds who can't kill. So, we're meant to believe that the mafia coincidentally targeted Beefy immediately after his role was uncovered by the 'network' and that it has nothing at all to do with the 'network' spreading around information that eventually found its way to the mafia? I won't even bother analyzing the fact that ATPG and Seamus admit they they needed Beefy dead to win, beause I think I would fall off my chair laughing at the absurdity of the situation.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 03-19-2009, 19:50

No names. None at all. Otherwise the villains will use simple process of elimination to off the power roles.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-19-2009, 19:53

Originally Posted by TinCow

So let me get this straight. ATPG and Seamus discover that Beefy is the tax collector on the first day phase (since ATPG mentions his duel/challenge fiasco in that dialog, that's where it fits in the timeline). Beefy is then murdered that night. ATPG and Seamus state they are simple shepherds who can't kill. So, we're meant to believe that the mafia coincidentally targeted Beefy immediately after his role was uncovered by the 'network' and that it has nothing at all to do with the 'network' spreading around information that eventually found its way to the mafia? I won't even bother analyzing the fact that ATPG and Seamus admit they they needed Beefy dead to win, beause I think I would fall off my chair laughing at the absurdity of the situation.

Welcome to my own personal hades.

If it makes more sense, Beefy left oodles of clues all over every single post he made. Oh, and he was a Good Man, was he not? And people were targeting those Good Men?

Personally, I don't trust you at all this game, TinCow. You've been an obstacle to our path forward the entire time, in my opinion. But I reserve judgment against you, because I don't know whose side you're on, and I won't just assume you're guilty and write off everything you say as a scummy tactic. it would be nice if you'd do the same for me.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 03-19-2009, 19:55

You've been an obstacle to our path forward the entire time, in my opinion.

Wouldn't that make him more trustworthy? After all, a mafioso would be dying to be included in such a group.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-19-2009, 19:56

No, that doesn't necessarily follow. Don't remember which logical fallacy that is.

A mafioso may choose to remain uncooperative, especially when more than half the town was.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 03-19-2009, 19:58

a) The mafioso has no way of knowing how much of the town is taking part.

b) Ask yourself the question: If armed with a host-provided cover role and given the chance to join a pro-town network, would you take it?

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-19-2009, 19:59

b) Ask yourself the question: If armed with a host-provided cover role and given the chance to join a pro-town network, would you take it?

Possibly. But being part of the network is like being part of my foot. You don't gain access to the brain, and we can investigate your claims.

You're shooting yourself in that same foot to lie to me.

**Reenk Roink** · 03-19-2009, 20:00

And here I thought that post counts would continue going down each round.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 03-19-2009, 20:02

Best analogy of the year award for the above?

And I'm not lying to you, I'm simply pointing out that a mafioso would definitely join a group if given the opportunity to. It makes life so much easier, because all your targets turn from adversaries to sitting ducks.

**TinCow** · 03-19-2009, 19:58

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Wouldn't that make him more trustworthy? After all, a mafioso would be dying to be included in such a group.

"I don't want to belong to any club that will accept people like me as a member."

-Groucho Marx

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 03-19-2009, 20:07

Originally Posted by TinCow

So let me get this straight. ATPG and Seamus discover that Beefy is the tax collector on the first day phase (since ATPG mentions his duel/challenge fiasco in that dialog, that's where it fits in the timeline). Beefy is then murdered that night. ATPG and Seamus state they are simple shepherds who can't kill. So, we're meant to believe that the mafia coincidentally targeted Beefy immediately after his role was uncovered by the 'network' and that it has nothing at all to do with the 'network' spreading around information that eventually found its way to the mafia? I won't even bother analyzing the fact that ATPG and Seamus admit they they needed Beefy dead to win, beause I think I would fall off my chair laughing at the absurdity of the situation.

I said myself that I almost protected beefy that night. He dropped hints that he had a role. Why would the mafia care about killing the tax collector?