The Settlement [Concluded]

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 03-19-2009, 23:26

Originally Posted by Sigurd

Heh... someone is manipulating the tally.
OR... somehow the good men's votes counts twice ...

Where have you been Sigurd, where have you been.

**Thermal** · 03-19-2009, 23:27

Originally Posted by Jolt

Anyways, the tally is (I think):

Andres 7 (taka, Capt. Blackadder, Yoyoma, sereikhaan)
Ichigo 2 (Jolt)
Tristan 1 (Seamus)

Did I miss something?

**Sigurd** · 03-19-2009, 23:30

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Where have you been Sigurd, where have you been.

Sorry... I must have missed that.
Things at work keeps my wits occupied. And as a man, I can't keep two things in my head at the same time.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-19-2009, 23:35

I am not sure that your lack of knowledge about the Good Men's voting ability isn't an act for our amusement. I haven't gotten much from you all game. Does anyone have any evidence one way or another on Sigurd? Guilty/innocent? Argument, case?

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-19-2009, 23:49

By the way, this is basically the last chance for anyone to reveal to Seamus. We can't repost your information via quote if he is dead, which he should be, tonight.

At least give him the duel information. We can at least use that to narrow down suspects for the future rounds.

**taka** · 03-19-2009, 23:52

wow, this thread really jumps in post counts, i come back and see about 4 pages worth of new stuff already...

**Yoyoma1910** · 03-20-2009, 00:06

edit....

Wrong character. Sigurd doesn't have a flock of sheep.

**Jolt** · 03-20-2009, 01:03

I was gonna reveal my duel rating but since I don't know if/how it affects kills and chance of survival, it might be sensitive information as well, and I would rather not share with possible Mafia.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-20-2009, 01:14

If you don't have an important role, nor a high duel rating, it doesn't matter. You are unlikely to be challenged, and you're unlikely to be able to help the town.

edit: With your role I mean. Not meant to question your mafia playing abilities.

**taka** · 03-20-2009, 01:25

Andres vehemently denied he was, pointing out that he merely killed some good men because of an unrelated reason

so andres was the scribe killer?

**Captain Blackadder** · 03-20-2009, 01:58

Yep he admited it his goal was to kill all the goodmen

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-20-2009, 02:02

So... can we stop blaming me for Beefy's death now?

**TinCow** · 03-20-2009, 02:44

No.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-20-2009, 02:46

I am going to crawl out of this coffin and eat you, TinCow.

I prefer the tangy taste of human flesh, but a large slab of beef, even if it does have a metallic flavor to it, would be quite nice.

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 03-20-2009, 05:22

Right, just thought I'd finish up the story of my brother shepherd and I for your perusal. Then I'll get back to the sheep....

....that didn't come out right....

Pizza began:

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My answer:

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I then posted in the thread and added privately:

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Pizza:

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Pizza went on to have another productive day:

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[QUOTE=Askthepizzaguy][QUOTE=Anonymous Too Living Player]How about 5:01? :D

Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

Hello Anonymous Too Living Player, thanks for playing

We respect property. We merely wish the property become our property so we may more perfectly respect it.

Thieves of Carn motto

You are The Last Thief of Carn

Background:

The Thieves of Carn started off as a band of thugs who engaged in petty theft and highway robbery but they soon grew to much more than that. Soon they were able to establish a stronghold and conduct raids and assassinations. A raid led by priest king Reenk Roink himself was launched against the Thieves of Carn stronghold where almost every last thief was slaughtered.

Only one thief survived. You.

You don’t seem to mind that your friends were massacred. You don't even mourn much for all the loot you had worked so hard to steal throughout the years. What really boils your blood is the damage done to your occupation and way of life.

You blame it all on one of the closest Bronze Companions of Reenk Roink. They called him The Watcher. It was him who was the first over the walls of the stronghold. It was him who killed your brother and took your brother's wife. It was him who embarrassed you in combat making you feign death so you would not be killed. While you lay there, pretending to be dead, he confiscated all of your loot.

Ever since that day you have vowed revenge against The Watcher. When you learned that Reenk Roink would make the journey to found a new settlement you knew that The Watcher would be there. So you would also be there.

Battle Rating:

4 – You are not physically strong but you are extremely quick. You have also had extensive training with weapons and fighting techniques as a former assassin and although a straight up fight is not your usual modus operandi, you can more than hold your own in battle.

Abilities:

Assassination: Every night period, you may attempt an investigation on one settler in order to determine if he is The Watcher. This will involve breaking into his tent or house to make sure of his identity. If the tent or house your break into belongs to The Watcher, you will assassinate him. If not, you will grab some loot and flee.

Victory Conditions:

Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
Outlast The Watcher

Public Role:

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I'd been offline most of the PM/evening, and was just amazed:

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Pizza:

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Me:

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Pizza:

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Which closed things for that busy day.

**Beefy187** · 03-20-2009, 05:36

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

So... can we stop blaming me for Beefy's death now?

no

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**Seamus Fermanagh** · 03-20-2009, 05:42

Pick up again on the 18th (no exchanges on St. Pat's) with Pizza:

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I responded hours later:

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Pizza:

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Originally Posted by Anonymous Too Living Player

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Originally Posted by Anonymous Too Living Player

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Originally Posted by Anonymous Too Living Player

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Sasaki would like to know the full details of your role. I declined because you didn't give me permission.

Would you allow Sasaki to know your full details? He doesn't have a clue what you are or how strong you are yet. If you don't want him to know, I won't tell him.

Why does he want to know?

Because he is trying to figure out what to do with what little information he has, I am sure. And judging by what you've claimed to be, it's impressive enough a role where the mafia would want to kill you if they know who you are, and since just me and just my mason/shepherd partner know, if you told Sasaki and you died, we would know that he's untrustworthy.

However, I didn't tell him, and I won't, unless you allow it. Do you want to throw him a bone, or would you rather he chew on his own freshly-skinned bones?

Also Unnamed Living Player is some sort of priest, probably osiosi, my investigation found.

Thank you very much. Ok, I haven't been following the story like I should have, being in too many games and hosting three... is Osiosi bad or good do we think?

Should I reveal this or keep it to myself?

Should I tell Sasaki or my mason partner? It's up to you, this is your data.

Meh, I don't care

OsiOsi = Good I think.

You guys both know Anonymous Too Living Player]['s claimed role. This is his investigation result on Also Unnamed Living Player.

And

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Ok, I spoke to Also Unnamed Living Player and he revealed, without my telling him, correctly and precisely what Anonymous Too Living Player suggested was his role and which God he served. That means he is an investigator, or both Anonymous Too Living Player and Also Unnamed Living Player are mafia together. Given that this would be very, very, very risky to try if they were both mafia, given my response of asking for the detective (real) to reveal to me, we will know for sure they are both townies by the end of the round.

Second, if they are townies, and this ploy works, we might nail a second investigator or ballsy mafia who will come forward and reveal privately to me. I see that no matter what happens now, there will be highly useful information revealed. If Anonymous Too Living Player or Also Unnamed Living Player dies tonight, the odds would suggest either you or Sasaki is a spy for the usurpers. I am uncertain I should reveal any further information to either one of you to be on the safe side. As it stands, if either of you are mafia, the investigator has allowed himself to be compromised, but that was his decision, and Reenk told me that you were my shepherd partner, so if that is not true,

I did my best and those are the breaks.

I don't know when you want to reveal publicly, Seamus, but the window of opportunity could be over by the start of the next morning phase. Seems Andres is due to fall today, so you probably have until just before dawn to reveal safely. If you choose to remain in secret for another day, then that is your risk to take. We have a lot of information, and should be able to deduce what information we received is truth or lies. There is much that we know, and patience is the watchword. You don't even need to reveal until late night phase this round if you do choose to do so, but I think you may want to reveal by next round. All right so, let me know what you think. A living mason plus an investigator, and several townie roles revealed to us; that's a good starting point to hammer down the remaining mafia.

I answered:

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Ok, II spoke to Also Unnamed Living Player and he revealed, without my telling him, correctly and precisely what Anonymous Too Living Player suggested was his role and which God he served. That means he is an investigator, or both Anonymous Too Living Player and Also Unnamed Living Player are mafia together. Given that this would be very, very, very risky to try if they were both mafia, given my response of asking for the detective (real) to reveal to me, we will know for sure they are both townies by the end of the round.

Second, if they are townies, and this ploy works, we might nail a second investigator or ballsy mafia who will come forward and reveal privately to me. I see that no matter what happens now, there will be highly useful information revealed. If Anonymous Too Living Player or Also Unnamed Living Player dies tonight, the odds would suggest either you or Sasaki is a spy for the usurpers. I am uncertain I should reveal any further information to either one of you to be on the safe side. As it stands, if either of you are mafia, the investigator has allowed himself to be compromised, but that was his decision, and Reenk told me that you were my shepherd partner, so if that is not true,

I did my best and those are the breaks.

I don't know when you want to reveal publicly, Seamus, but the window of opportunity could be over by the start of the next morning phase. Seems Andres is due to fall today, so you probably have until just before dawn to reveal safely. If you choose to remain in secret for another day, then that is your risk to take. We have a lot of information, and should be able to deduce what information we received is truth or lies. There is much that we know, and patience is the watchword. You don't even need to reveal until late night phase this round if you do choose to do so, but I think you may want to reveal by next round. All right so, let me know what you think. A living mason plus an investigator, and several townie roles revealed to us; that's a good starting point to hammer down the remaining mafia.

Its only a Mason role, so you're probably correct that waiting overlong is not wise. It seems correct. Also Unnamed/Anonymous Too are either a mafia team or what they claim to be. Let me ponder this (and sleep!) and get things rolling then.

I then began this multi-step reveal. There were several subsequent PM's from Sasaki and Pizza on how to name names or not etc. As you can see, I have chosen anonymity for the living in order to prevent the mafia from killing select targets.

Now, lets see if I can drain a bottle of the old parsnip and then snuggle up to a sheep or two for some snoring....and maybe wake up?

**White_eyes:D** · 03-20-2009, 05:50

You know.....If I was Mafia/SK....I would know who to knock off because of one of those PM's....

Thanks to you guys....I know who are detective is

But if I say and he dies.....I would get lynched....

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-20-2009, 07:08

You sent me a message in private White_Eyes, which I do not think you thought through properly, and I can point out glaringly obvious examples of the falsity of your thinking. But, by all means, believe it is who you think it is. If he end up dead tonight, that's a suspect down, and furthermore, we know you're evil. Good work, keep it up!

Anywho. I repeat once again, and again, and again, and again.... reveal yourselves to Seamus. He will not survive now. That means both he and I are innocent. As for Sasaki, he's not getting any further information from us, so he has no further reason to keep the investigator alive if he were evil.

You don't have to agree with the pro-town network strategy, but with my death and Seamus', and our ability to make public the names of the innocent at any time, you know that we are innocent. We have both defended dozens of townies all game so far.

Seems to me GH knows where we can find another investigator, or happens to also know our investigator, otherwise he's just got fine deductive skills. I don't feel it is necessary to have that person revealed, so keep that one to yourself GH, unless we have finally earned your trust.

And White_Eyes... I've done a good job covering for you; so, perhaps it's time to tell me what your real role is before I accuse you.

**White_eyes:D** · 03-20-2009, 07:31

I would not have said anything if I was the Mafia/SK......I would have been like "hmmm....must be him*sends in kill orders*", like in Godfather 3....I tried my very best to hide who I would kill

Edit: Tevash, my Mafia partner was more....Random.ORG...

Beefy was....nice even as Godfather....made it hard for him to kill any big named players though....not for me though

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-20-2009, 07:34

I tend to believe you on that, but you should respond privately to the other accusation I made regarding your role.

**Andres** · 03-20-2009, 09:29

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

I said myself that I almost protected beefy that night. He dropped hints that he had a role. Why would the mafia care about killing the tax collector?

Who said Beefy187 was killed by the mafia?

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-20-2009, 10:53

Not a top priority, but I believe White_Eyes sent me a fake role PM, and he appears to be fishing for the investigator. I want town to be aware of this.

I can't say for sure he's mafia, but I don't like this behavior and I demand an explanation. A real role PM sent to Seamus, or a cessation of all investigator-fishing activity. I won't say you're a top suspect, White_eyes, but this stuff just jumped you up about 8 notches.

**White_eyes:D** · 03-20-2009, 10:56

Bring it on pizza guy....

(I warn you about something and you think I am up to something....typical....

)

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-20-2009, 11:01

1. All I want is a proper explanation. And if you do so, do it privately so you don't reveal your "theory" to the scum.

2. Your role PM stinks of fakeness. I've seen it before as a fake one. That's not proof, but if you have a second role, send it to Seamus or Sasaki IMMEDIATELY.

3. You deserve to be questioned for your investigator-fishing behavior, and your revealing a mason to the town. Don't act like you don't have this coming.

I am not saying you're a witch and we need to burn you this round, I am saying... explain it in a way I can understand, and do this for me, otherwise I've got to slap you with a "mafia" or "bad townie" label. The clock is ticking, I'm making a note of the time. Reveal your real role to.... SOMEONE.... or stand on the record as claiming to have a role which seems very, very faked, exposing a mason, and trying to determine who the investigator is (and being wrong about it, by the way)

**White_eyes:D** · 03-20-2009, 11:07

No, I told you my role.....it's there for everyone to see....and sending you a second one well not make much sense...

**Jolt** · 03-20-2009, 11:12

Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

I would not have said anything if I was the Mafia/SK......I would have been like "hmmm....must be him*sends in kill orders*", like in Godfather 3....I tried my very best to hide who I would kill

Edit: Tevash, my Mafia partner was more....Random.ORG...

Beefy was....nice even as Godfather....made it hard for him to kill any big named players though....not for me though

Frankly, you would waste a kill.

**White_eyes:D** · 03-20-2009, 11:15

Originally Posted by Jolt

Frankly, you would waste a kill.

I did that a lot in Godfather 3.....but it still got me to the end game

Tevash's Random.ORG method nailed the detective on night two.....and I was gonna keep Khaan alive till the end game...

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-20-2009, 11:16

I am still waiting impatiently on a rational explanation for your behavior White_Eyes. Not pleased ATM.

(IRL- You're awesome white eyes, this is all in-game, just doing me job)

**White_eyes:D** · 03-20-2009, 11:21

Wait till nights over, to start grilling me...I have no way to say what well happen....

And even if I did kick a sore spot in your network.....why am I getting grilled over it???

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