The Settlement [Concluded]

[Yoyoma1910]

Lord Winter is only just a farmer.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think it's hilarious just how utterly, utterly useless the masons were in a game with so many investigators. Hopefully, lynching me allowed you guys to get the work done.

See? Being willing to die for town can be a good thing.

[boudica]

Lord Winter is only just a farmer.

Without wishing to appear pedantic (I know you'll appreciate it ;P) Can you restructure that statement to make Lord Winter seem less suspicious

I think it's hilarious just how utterly, utterly useless the masons were in a game with so many investigators. Hopefully, lynching me allowed you guys to get the work done.

See? Being willing to die for town can be a good thing.

I think we are still waiting to see how 'helpful' that actually was ATPG

The remaining suspects:

Shinseikhaan - a hungover inscrutable poet
Lord Winter - only just a farmer? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt
Psychonaut - still doing what he does best with his complimentary pomaigne
boudica - me
Ichigo - not absent (good to see you back on the thread Ichigo - have you had a chance to read any of it?)
Yoyoma1910 - Excellent detective work - and the exchange posted with TinCow doesn't make me any more suspicious of him - just a shame we seem to have run into a brick wall investigation wise...
Seamus Fermanagh Still shearing sheep I assume while waiting to pick up his Tax rebate

Given an apparent innocent report by Yoyoma on Lord Winter, I have less of an idea about how to proceed than I did yesterday. All the undead settlers posting seem to have had some other agenda and they are the only people calling for lynches form what I can make out. I'll be interested to see if 'Khaan is as keen to vote for our detective again today but I feel we should leave this in our Priest-Kings hands, and hopefully he's found a way of deciding the matter without Psychonaut slowly killing all of us by alcoholic poisoning

vote: abstain

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think we are still waiting to see how 'helpful' that actually was ATPG

If you're talking theory, I'll take that challenge!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

What would have been a better lynch? I had almost no duel ability, and I had no special abilities whatsoever, beyond knowing that Seamus could be innocent, and with recruitment, that is impossible to know anyway. The only better lynch would have been a usurper or other anti-townie. And by lynching me, it was possible to find such people without wasting a useful townie's life. With certainty, no good useful role was wasted, and I removed myself as a suspect, so I wouldn't be a tempting target in later rounds instead of a guilty party. The only better move, would be that totally random lynch of a baddie, which given the odds at the time, would be pretty farfetched. Possibly hitting an innocent useful townie versus the less likely chance of hitting an anti-town player... or absolutely making sure that all pro-townie roles get their chance to work their magic to find the usurpers? I choose the safer option, and apparently, I wasn't the only one who thought it was a good idea, as I ended up deader than a box full of decapitated squirrels.

It's a matter of townie theory, and I think I'm on solid ground here. It becomes less and less effective or useful in later rounds, and I will never offer myself up for a lynch past the midpoint of a game, because that's when it becomes very damaging and less helpful.

Of course, that's all theoretical... technically, there was a chance to kill a usurper, and random chance may have allowed that to happen, so it's not absolutely the best move. But it was perhaps the odds-favored move, safest for town.

Plus if I were mafia you kill me anyway. Because I'd "never" offer myself up for the lynch, several times, as a mafioso.

[Andres]

If you're talking theory, I'll take that challenge!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

What would have been a better lynch? I had almost no duel ability, and I had no special abilities whatsoever, beyond knowing that Seamus could be innocent, and with recruitment, that is impossible to know anyway. The only better lynch would have been a usurper or other anti-townie. And by lynching me, it was possible to find such people without wasting a useful townie's life. With certainty, no good useful role was wasted, and I removed myself as a suspect, so I wouldn't be a tempting target in later rounds instead of a guilty party. The only better move, would be that totally random lynch of a baddie, which given the odds at the time, would be pretty farfetched. Possibly hitting an innocent useful townie versus the less likely chance of hitting an anti-town player... or absolutely making sure that all pro-townie roles get their chance to work their magic to find the usurpers? I choose the safer option, and apparently, I wasn't the only one who thought it was a good idea, as I ended up deader than a box full of decapitated squirrels.

It's a matter of townie theory, and I think I'm on solid ground here. It becomes less and less effective or useful in later rounds, and I will never offer myself up for a lynch past the midpoint of a game, because that's when it becomes very damaging and less helpful.

Of course, that's all theoretical... technically, there was a chance to kill a usurper, and random chance may have allowed that to happen, so it's not absolutely the best move. But it was perhaps the odds-favored move, safest for town.

Plus if I were mafia you kill me anyway. Because I'd "never" offer myself up for the lynch, several times, as a mafioso.

I disagree.


Victory condition in all mafia games : your team must outnumber the other team.

Dead of player X reduces the numbers of his team with 1.

Ergo: dead of player X does not help his team to obtain victory.

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Anyway, back to the game at hand: I think Yoyoma1910 is innocent. He has been cooperative with town all game long and has offered you guys more than one good lynch target on a silver plate during this game. It simply wouldn't make sense for him to be one of the bad guys.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'd think that lynching a detective would qualify as being worse. In a game with many pro-town roles, a certain non-role lynch versus a very likely pro-town role lynch makes for a safer and less simplistic path forward. But that is why it is theory; it doesn't work in all cases, and there is room for debate.

But I agree, back to the topic at hand.

[Csargo]

Ichigo - not absent (good to see you back on the thread Ichigo - have you had a chance to read any of it?)

I've made it to the end of the first day phase, which means I've basically accomplished nothing at all. Sad Ichi is sad

[naut]

Well I'm stumped.

[_Tristan_]

Well I'm stumped.

... and I'm dead thanks to your cursed beverage (and random.org... )

[LittleGrizzly]

Out of interest has Ichigo been investigated ??

The only theory i have is that maybe he made seamus will hidden scum with his name in pizzas role like he did with TC and (some guy) in midgaard saga II

Edit: well hiden as in investigator can't detect him... even with a god giving him the information...

[Andres]

Out of interest has Ichigo been investigated ??

Yeah, Ichigo was Iffo's servant or so. Apparently, he doesn't have the ability to kill, only to recruit for the Vode-Iffo alliance. Nothing to worry about.

Psychonaut, boudica and pevergreen are better lynch candidates.