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    Default Things I learned today.

    • A square formation is utterly useless if you haven’t researched bayonets yet
    • One big ship won’t win against 3 smaller ships no mater how persistent you are


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieFriedNuts View Post
    • A square formation is utterly useless if you haven’t researched bayonets yet
    lol, it must have been pretty painful seeing that one play out.

    I've learned that native Americans very actually very disciplined soldiers who fought in tight formations and were just as technologically advanced as the Europeans. The Cherokee have so far taken one region from the 13 Colonies, and Florida from Spain (although I did take Georgia from them as the British).
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Default Re: Things I learned today.

    Plug bayonets cant be removed for the remainder of the battle, lmao
    What if it is actualy you who are crazy, and I am realy not crazy?... No, you're right... I am crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyviking03 View Post
    Plug bayonets cant be removed for the remainder of the battle, lmao
    Ha, I figured that out the hard way.

    My enemies started running away before a shot was fired, so I was just messing about, and pressed the button. Suddenly, the enemies stop, and I remembered I was the attacker. I had to fight the battle without any guns!

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    I learned Empire is a much harder game than M2TW. I also learned that the the Inuit are a race to be feared .

    Oh and I learned that despite the stereotype the French will not surrender easily at all.
    Last edited by Sir Beane; 03-04-2009 at 23:50.


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    Default Re: Things I learned today.

    Bah, Inuit

    It was an absolutely ridiculous idea to have them as a faction
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Very Super Market View Post
    Bah, Inuit

    It was an absolutely ridiculous idea to have them as a faction
    Agreed. On the plus side you will never, ever see them unless you go looknig for them.
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    A reed! Where?!


    How many native factions are there anyways?
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Very Super Market View Post
    A reed! Where?!


    How many native factions are there anyways?
    Lets see...

    Huron,
    Iroqouis,
    Inuit,
    Plains Nations,
    Cherokee,

    I think there may be a couple more aswell.


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    The Huron are not the undisciplined horde of savages I expected to mow down with muskets.
    The Mughal Empire is not an empire composed of Moogles and are to be feared.
    If it takes a few years to work out how to plug a blade into a musket barrel we will never cure cancer.

    Especially the first one, I can see why the British Empire got itss bum handed to it a few times by natives. I make a medium army in Moose Factory and march into Huron territory expecting it to be a cakewalk. I get slaughtered by an army that would be out of date in Medieval times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IlDuce View Post
    The Mughal Empire is not an empire composed of Moogles and are to be feared.
    What if they WERE an empire of Moogles?
    That would be truly terrifying.
    Just imagine, all the little bastards would have to do is DANCE and your army would get sucked into another dimension.
    Tallyho lads, rape the houses and burn the women! Leave not a single potted plant alive! Full speed ahead and damn the cheesemongers!

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    I learned that since the first scenario in "Road to Independence" takes place in America and only contains three provinces, all of which you have to conqueor in order to complete it, doing so gives you the "Master of the Americas" achievement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Beane View Post
    Lets see...

    Huron,
    Iroqouis,
    Inuit,
    Plains Nations,
    Cherokee,

    I think there may be a couple more aswell.
    And 3 of those are my protectorates!
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    I leanred the plug bayonet lesson as well. I was attacking an American star fort and had all my men fix their plug bayonets before grapelling over the walls. Granted, it worked well when engaged in close combat with the enemy infantry on the wall. However, when it came down to the base of the fort, having to bayonet charge a charging enemy unit of dragoons does not work out very well.

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    Stakes ... general ... keep away from.

    First battle with that lovely Prussian seven star general too. Argh.

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    I learned that as I suspected I know NOTHING about 18th century tactics and I learned what it means to finally get my ass kicked in a Total War game.
    Last edited by Quickening; 03-05-2009 at 06:08.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quickening View Post
    I learned that as I suspected I know NOTHING about 18th century tactics and I learned what it means to finally get my ass kicked in a Total War game.
    Heh, I use my exact formation and tactics from MTW2. It results in heavy causualties, which got my leader some bad traits, but it works.

    What I've learned is that crazy hindoos with scimitars are a force to be feared. As are musketeers in chainmail. India is awesome.
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    I learned the Dutch fluyt can be a surprisingly agile and powerful warschip in the early stages of the game, especially considering its a merchantmen. And that brigs and sloops are mostly useless in battle. They are too fragile and dishout too little damage to be of much use for that. The best use i got out of a brig was to lure an enemy fleet out of sheltering in a port with it.

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    Reading this threat plus having the game in my backpack to install it 2nite; I already learned: I am a total noob when it comes to warfare after the 30 years war..dragoons? use of bayonets?!? sailing boats??? ruthless Inuits!!!!... Now I AM scared!

    BTW I payed 39 € for the regular version....is that normal? Expected it to be round 45-50 bugs.
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    Moose are apparently constructed in a factory in Ontario. Much to my surprise.

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    Ha-hah... you must be American.

    The main posts for the Hudson Bay Company were called factories, because the "governor" of those posts were called factors.
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    I thought the world 'factory' meant a fortified merchants quarter back then, because I remember reading about the Dutch and Portuguese ones in India.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Very Super Market View Post
    Ha-hah... you must be American.

    The main posts for the Hudson Bay Company were called factories, because the "governor" of those posts were called factors.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    I thought the world 'factory' meant a fortified merchants quarter back then, because I remember reading about the Dutch and Portuguese ones in India.
    Rhyfelwyr is correct. A 'factory' was more or less a miniature town where merchants lived.

    Examples include Dejima, the Dutch port in Japan where trade was conducted with the Tokugawa Shogunate during their isolation. This was something of an extreme example, because the merchants were essentially forbidden from leaving except to board/debark their ships or when called upon specifically by the Shogun (although this loosened up in later years).

    I believe there was also one established in Moscow by the British during Ivan IV's reign.


    And it's best not to make fun of American's lack of historical knowledge. I know a fellow from Scotland who had no clue who Oliver Cromwell was.
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    I learned that while play.com has free shipping throughout Europe and the UK, it is shipped in an oxcart.

    If I am very lucky perhaps they will put it on a slow train once they cross the German border.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    I learned that while play.com has free shipping throughout Europe and the UK, it is shipped in an oxcart.
    So very true. They are otherwise the best place to buy from. I always compared play.com to an ox funnily enough, slow but reliable. It gets the job done eventually.
    But in cases like this I go for the roadrunner that is amazon.co.uk. Fast as hell but occasionally delivering me the wrong game (twice now)
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Very Super Market View Post
    Ha-hah... you must be American.

    The main posts for the Hudson Bay Company were called factories, because the "governor" of those posts were called factors.
    So that means that there is actually a "Moose Factor"?! I'll have to be watch out for that and be extra cautious when invading that province...

    "I would've won, except for the damn Moose Factor"

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    No, I chose the wrong word. The factor just manages the post. There is no "Moose" factor, unless his name was Moose or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    I've learned that native Americans very actually very disciplined soldiers who fought in tight formations and were just as technologically advanced as the Europeans. The Cherokee have so far taken one region from the 13 Colonies, and Florida from Spain (although I did take Georgia from them as the British).
    Yeah that one's kinda weird, I'm not sure how historically accurate it is with the Native Americans not going anywhere without artillery support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graphic View Post
    Yeah that one's kinda weird, I'm not sure how historically accurate it is with the Native Americans not going anywhere without artillery support.


    Do they have cannons?

    Or was this only a joke?

    No matter!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Plusi View Post
    Ha, I figured that out the hard way.

    My enemies started running away before a shot was fired, so I was just messing about, and pressed the button. Suddenly, the enemies stop, and I remembered I was the attacker. I had to fight the battle without any guns!
    Hmm, try clicking on the crossed-swords again (after the melee) to remove bayonets...

    that'll learn ya

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