Minor nations playable?

**Malkut** · 03-05-2009, 02:27

Will this be possible without modding tools?

**Noddy The Beefy Egg** · 03-05-2009, 02:57

Hmmmm. I think you will need to conquer them to play them.

**Cecil XIX** · 03-05-2009, 03:29

Really? That'd be quite a relief.

**pevergreen** · 03-05-2009, 04:28

No, they are NOT playable.

There is currently no way to mod this game.

**Mailman653** · 03-05-2009, 05:44

Indeed, from what I've been reading it appears as if modding the game won't be as stright forward as the demo might of suggested. It seems the old unpacker for the demo still works, you just have to change some things in the Python, but as to making other nations playable; from what I'm reading if you do manage to open up the pack files, the files which might hold this information don't appear to be either in plain text or xml so we might have to wait untill we get the SDK to really crack the potential of the game wide open.

**pevergreen** · 03-05-2009, 05:48

Correct, and some changes are being over-ridden in the patch.pack files.

**The historian** · 03-05-2009, 22:53

Well then can't wait for them hopefully they'll have a map editor as i find the map utterly horrible.i'll have to add some 50 provinces at least.

**lenin96** · 03-06-2009, 10:37

It's good that we're all calm about this, have a look at some of TWC's threads about modding and the're full of people ranting about it and bashing CA.

They probably will release modding tools, I heard that CA said that it will only take a simple edit though don't ask me for sources because I'm only going on what some people at TWC have said.

**pevergreen** · 03-06-2009, 11:37

Although true lenin, you just have to pay attention to a few posters.

Theres an incredible new unpacker out, we can hex edit unit stats.

But trust me, don't even THINK about CA bashing. There may not be strict rules about it, but I got my fill when I signed up at the M2TW launch.

As for those who just want a bigger map, leave it to me! When mod tools come out, I'm stopping play and hitting the maps.

Common misconception is that CA said they would make it easier to mod. They said we could mod more but made no comment on difficulty.

We've discovered already we can mod a lot more, we just can't yet.

What we really need is alpaca over here doing his work.

They did say unlocking the minor factions was a simple and easy change. I'm guessing we just need the mod tools to do it. Can't be much simpler than desc_strat.

**lenin96** · 03-06-2009, 14:21

Yes I know, CA makes me annoyed some times. I heard about the unpacker, there's a lot of people trying to unlock factions and I think they might do it by the end of next week.

**NagatsukaShumi** · 03-06-2009, 15:15

Is alpaca still around pevergreen? I remember working with him on MA many moons ago, great modder!

As for CA bashing, its easy for people to forget that they are given time scales to work within, which is why we get the whole misconception of "unfinished", it is unfinished in CA's eyes yes, but not their publishers, its why games get patched to the high heavens, happens with all games companies. CA are by far one of the most "community friendly" companies I have seen, alot don't bother posting anything but patch threads and news updates, they rarely interact, so the fact CA does is very nice to see.