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[Askthepizzaguy]

Acting scummy, as a scum:

I intentionally made myself a top suspect as a mafia in Prometheus, and after I died, I went into full on scummy mode. What I did was I played the talkative, accusatory inquisitor and even under repeated threats of death I did not alter my strategy. It took 4 turns before town decided I was more trouble than I was worth.

I never intended to survive the game, my intention was to be a distraction, and that's where I succeeded. Early on people had locked onto seireikhaan as a suspect, Ichigo in particular, and others followed suit. I forget when, but Reenk Roink had also become a suspect in many people's minds, and both had come close to being lynched.

I accused seireikhaan of being mafia, and I had an adversarial relationship with Reenk Roink. Finally, town lynches me, and I "reveal" that I am the leader of this cult, and that we are a cult of virtue and enlightenment. My argument was so convincing, a townie decided to seriously entertain my stated explanation for the game, and instead of seireikhaan that round there was a huge bandwagon on Chaotix.

Later, YLC had started to tell the town to look for clues in my posts, and that immediately made him a suspect too, and he was the final lynch.

My teammates deserve most of the credit; seireikhaan had asked me to be my usual supertownie self and gave me good advice, and had been one of the masterminds behind Reenk's role reveal which kept him alive for an astounding number of rounds after we had died, and Reenk's solo performance was outstanding. My small part was simply this: Distract town as long as possible, and after my death, use the powers of persuasion to get town to kill themselves even though they knew I was a scum. I had no idea if it would work, but amazingly it did for at least one townie, and that did delay seireikhaan's death for a few rounds.

Here's some of the quotes in the early game:

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Re: pizzaguy: if a maff would go to the lengths this guy has gone to camouflage his true role, we have a new, excellent player/liar. I'd leave him alone for awhile.

Pizza is being awfully helpful for a townie in day 1. I really hope you are just a helpful townie.

Damn. Talk about walls and walls o' text. Pizzaguy's going overboard...

Dont know who to vote. But I doubt its Pizza.

I said I dont think its pizza guy.. Theres no reason to change my vote just yet.. I could go for TB but I wanna actually make my vote count.

Wasnt it Pizza guy in first place who brought up the idea that mafia has been converting people? Thus there should be three mafia supporters? If pizza man is one of the baddys why bring it up? Sure it could be reverse psychology and for that he must be lynched eventually, but why lynch a guy whos been at least providing ideas more then most of you when more then half of us are still alive?

If we can avoid the woggs then I say we wait few more phases before we decide the fate of the Pizza guy.

YLC's reaction when I finally died... town chose between me and chaotix for the tie, and was frankly surprised I was scum.

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Hmm, well, now it's my turn, I had my suspicions while I talked to him, but that was it. I'll understand if the town comes down on me for being unwittingly involved, I happily accept your votes in any attempt to clear my name . I just wish I listened to my mafia sense when he first began mentioning a cult, I know he plays ballsy, and I even called him out on it several times, just wish I had followed my instincts. Remember that from now on, Pizzaguy plays ballsy from now on...

And my postmortem speech;

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A letter is found, written in the blood of Askthepizzaguy

To all who seek knowledge;

The harmonious order of the universe will never accept the continued destruction propagated by the land rapists. Polluters and thieves, your time is at an end. Your crimes against the light are greater than you could ever possibly imagine. From out of the light you were conceived, and from that light you were granted food, shelter, and a land which yielded everlasting harmonious life to you. From these glorious gifts, you have taken, and taken, and now you take more than you deserve. You have upset the natural order, come into conflict with the harmonious light, the logic and wisdom of the universe itself. With every rock you disturb, every ounce of water you pollute, every cubic centimeter of poison you spew into the air, and every resource you plunder from nature, you take for yourself that which does not belong to you. You have altered the climate and unbalanced the ecosystem, and now you seek to spread your selfish and chaotic system into other spheres, other untouched places. Like a virus, a plague, a mass of locusts, you take all that there is to take from an environment and then when everything has been harvested, raped, and destroyed, you move on, leaving nothing of value in your wake. You do not even thank the natural world for the things which you consume and destroy.

But fear not, for you will be purified by the light. It is inevitable, and that is what gives me peace. I know that my body and my soul have become one with the harmonious order, and that even in death, my place is part of nature. You may struggle, but your inevitable death brings you closer to the light, closer to the harmony of the universe. It is not too late for you. You can still join the glorious light voluntarily, if you so choose. All you have to do is remain still, remain passive. No harm will ever come to you. The others who struggle in their madness will be calmed, and become at peace. Then they will join you. If you stay inside your quarters and do not speak, and do not take up arms, and do not continue to resist us, the forces of logic and nature will overcome the cluttered minds aboard this vessel. The ones who follow the ways of selfishness, who take without giving back, who contaminate the natural order and who spread the illogical vision of a humanocentric universe, who are so single-minded as to continue on their journey towards the harmonious moons of Jupiter, on a mission to steal and take what does not belong to them... they will become enlightened, or they will be swallowed up by the glorious light.

I have so much more to teach you, but my shell is about to be captured. It will rejoin the glorious light soon enough. My followers will help me spread the teachings of logic, of harmony with nature, and of our great faith, well beyond the existence of my own mere consciousness. I trust that those with an open mind will hear what I have to say, and take my wisdom to heart. It is with love and with open arms that I welcome you all into the glorious enlightenment. I will wait patiently for you all to see the light.

All my love and logic are yours. Share in the light with me.

Note the bolded part. The entire speech is a subtle argument to let the mafia win. And then:

Okay, everyone. I have been speaking with the scum ATPG, and I believe I have learned something from his words, although he mentioned nothing directly and I was left to infer this for myself. No, I have not been converted.

In the very first sentence of this thread, Crazed Rabbit mentions that there is a gameplay mechanic that is not found in traditional mafias. This could simply be the convert mechanic that the mafia employs, however this has happened in other mafia games. Rather, I think that it is possible that there's no town victory condition. That if, in the event we do defeat the mafia, our load of precious chemicals will wind up being used for nukes or something, and we'll blow up the Earth. Then there'll be no winner, cause we'll all be dead. Perhaps the only way there can be a victory is if it is for mafia. And in that case, it would be in our every interest to join the mafia.

Now, I'm not saying that you should believe this, or even that I necessarily believe it myself. It's just, the more I think about it, the more it seems likely that CR would play a sick trick on us in the event that we won . That, and ATPG left me with a cryptic comment, although he could just as easily be lying: "If you would just lay down your arms, you would attain victory."

I think that we need to discuss this, and whether or not we want to follow it or not. Maybe we should have a vote on it.

And town's reaction:

Vote: Chaotix

You may be right that by saving the crew, we are dooming our planet BUT I'd rather stay alive then be killed by agents.
I intentionatly didn't read the Pizzaguy's testimony as I suspected it could be used to confuse us. Chaotix, you just jumped on it like a fly on rotten greens. Naive or a deliberate action? Quite frankly I don't care.

Unvote: Khaan Vote: Chaotix

Im sorry but way you talk.... Means that you are either agent or extremely unhelpful townie. You may be right about how we create something which could harm others. But that doesn't give the agents any reason to kill us. Some of us here are genuinely innocent. I know the oracle with out the weapon will always be ignored but still.. I really dislike your method.

Massive bandwagon, and chaotix dies instead of khaan. And for a time, Chaotix redeems himself because he is now convinced of my partner's guilt, but due to the fact that no one believed he was innocent anymore, they ignored khaan and Reenk.

And somehow, khaan and Reenk are let off the hook once again.

For future reference: what Aries is doing is just his play style. He's a joker/spammer, and you can never really be sure if he wants his side to win. He's doing exactly the same thing in the Simpsons Mafia.

YLC is the next to suggest people listen to my words, even if they don't believe them;

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I'd like to voice something that has bothered me from the beginning, yet was never able to put words to it.

If the ecofreaks are able to convert, then why kill? Killing eliminates a possible convert, and incites said dead townie to become angry at them. A converted townie helps with voting and increase numbers, allowing the mafia to achieve their goal FASTER.

To me, this means several things -

The mafia either may only recruit so many,
The mafia actually lacks the ability to convert,
The mafia only has a chance to convert, where as they are guaranteed the elimination of a townie by killing them,
The mafia are highly experienced players, and are weeding out possible townie who would be bad for conversion based upon their lack of experience and susceptibility to being exposed, and expsoing those they associate with,
The mafia is highly inexperienced, and hasn't thought analytically about their position.

Also, reading through Pizzaguy's posts, I have come to a handful of conclusion, although I admit RR beat me to most of them.

1 - Do not bother trying to tell innocence from the write ups, where dealing with a cult like behavior who believe in something higher then themselves. As far as they are concerned, they will win, and that any sacrifice they make is better for the whole, thus they will be just as willing to be cyro-ed as town would.
2 - The words "Order, Balance, Harmony" continue to crop up in Pizzaguy's writings. Why? From what I gather, they hold significant importance. No other words are as repeated, for little or no reason, as these are. Pizzaguy is one to try to imbed clues, even if it is detrimental to his own side, in his writing.

3 - Also, as noted by Seamus and Reenk, Pizzaguy's tone changed significantly midway through the game. This leads me to believe he is a convert, and could have possibly been a protown role, which would explain his rather...revealing lynching. Thus, a thorough reading of Pizzaguy's posts, just before and just after, may reveal much information...if the town is willing to work for it.

And town's reaction:

*sighs* not another Chaotix please....YLC you just got FoS for talking about hippie-based crap....1 and 2 MIGHT be true but 3 is worthless....because Pizza guy being a Pro-town role? (then why kill shlin?) Just ignore all of Pizza guys posts....he only wants to confuse you....He is VERY tricky....and only wants his side to win by any means necessary

YLC and White_Eyes have an argument, and White eyes is convinced for the rest of the game that YLC needs to go. On the final lynch, the town chooses YLC over Reenk Roink, even though Reenk had revealed as a detective some 5 turns earlier and was still alive and "unable to investigate".

Like I said, most of the credit goes to my teammates, because all that bluffing wouldn't have done diddley squat had they not taken the ball and run with it to the endzone. Eventually the town had finally decided to ignore me, so I was only partly and marginally responsible for the win.

Still, there are times when acting scummy, as a scum, is to your advantage.

I think that was the second game I ever played in.