Reenk Roink 17:12 03-30-2009
Originally Posted by YLC:
Are we so charismatic and forceful, dear Reenk, that the rest of the players must dig up ours bodies in some vain attempt to kill us again?

I guess I can't be too mad at boudica.
Although I'm just a tomboyish girl. Don't know what the deal is.
Diana Abnoba 17:13 03-30-2009
Originally Posted by
boudica:
I agree with your list there Faction Heir - Add Reenk Roink to it and I'd make a short bet that we have 4 mafia roles right there. Question @ Diana Abnoba (and this is purely an in-game question!) Has Askthepizzaguy been acting as if he's keeping something from you? 
I can interrogate him if you would like
Sasaki Kojiro 17:19 03-30-2009
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly:
So your going to have to explain yoyur confusion, its makes perfect sense to me...
You can only have one top priority. There is more than one mafia. I'm your top priority you've made it clear (by tomorrow I'll go back and show how your suspicion of me is entirely in response to my case on you, but that's an aside) so are you saying that everyone who isn't me is "probably innocent"?
Originally Posted by :
The detective results were the main reason, badly worded i know.
Ok. I say "changing your story because it was made up the first time" you say "badly worded i know". Townies are more likely to get their main reasons correct than mafioso.
Originally Posted by :
Earlier he claimed he was pro town because he was pushing his original case on alexander when everyone else was making bad choices.
They were bad choices!!
Reenk has since been proven to be town... so im making a bad choice by not voting this townie... LIES!
ATPG you have defended yourself... so im making a bad choice by not voting someone you belive to be innocent and who everyone else is voting for just because of pizza's usual wifom...... LIES!
No Lg. You trying to convince people that you were townie, and the reason you used was that you had made a an original case on alexander, and that you had told the town not to lynch reenk and pizza, which mafia wouldn't do. Both of those are false. Here is your "original case" on alexander:
Originally Posted by LG:
Vote ATPGood
Needs to catch up in posting with his similarly named .orger!
Originally Posted by LG:
Sasaki has repeatedly lied and spread half truths in an attempt to lynch me, Sasaki must be scum it is the only thing that can explian his strange behaviour this game!
One, I haven't lied. Two, you just played settlement with me where you warned me off TinCow. As a townie you would know that the second part of your statement is an exaggeration.
Originally Posted by LG:
find it interesting that LG won't stop acting like he is being persectuted.
I am bloody being persucuted!!
(in a im still having fun and not getting pissed off with the game kind of way incase anyone is worried about upsetting me)
One is Sasaki who for reasons unknown to me decided i was scum off misreading several of my posts and then maintaining that his reading of my posts was the correct one rather than my meaning behind them!!
Does this sound like someone who thinks I'm guilty? No, it sounds like someone who is voting me because I'm going after him.
And LG, what you're claiming is that you said things which were scummy and that my not accepting your explanation of "well I didn't mean it that way" means I'm guilty. Except in this post you aren't suggesting I'm guilty.
So you agree with me Sasaki on my assertion that LG is behaving as if he "being persecuted"? In that instead of responding normally, he has gone out of his way to defame his "accuser"?
Sasaki Kojiro 17:31 03-30-2009
Originally Posted by YLC:
So you agree with me Sasaki on my assertion that LG is behaving as if he "being persecuted"? In that instead of responding normally, he has gone out of his way to defame his "accuser"?
Yes.
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly:
Andres then why should the town waste a lynch of me if your are not lieing ? surely the town should make you waste your kill instead ?
And this is the huge flaw in Andres logic, if i truely was godfather just kill me off quietly in a turn or two, announcing it to the town will make them wonder why mafia didn't kill him himself, there is always a risk your godfather could die.... but the fact is theres no risk from me... and am no godfather
Andres came in here to save one of his own from the lynch!
Theres too many holes in his logic for him to be telling the truth... hes encouraging the town to more useless lynches!!
WE im sorry i didn't believe you straight away, though i did take my vote off you before you were lynched!
But WE (a proven innocent) is 100% accurate on sasaki this game!
Leading the town astray, directing the lynches of innocents!!
Got to admire the WIFOM, eh? Dear English Godfather, you are a worthy adversary
No
L_G, we won't kill you, we are enjoying watching you struggling with the constant inquisition. The town will slowly tear you into little pieces. That's more than even the most cruel kill write-up could do.
Besides, we're not going to waste two kills on you if it can be acomplished by one lynch.
Die,
L_G, DIE !!! You made one mistake this game, which was killing
me
LittleGrizzly 20:58 03-30-2009
You can only have one top priority. There is more than one mafia. I'm your top priority you've made it clear (by tomorrow I'll go back and show how your suspicion of me is entirely in response to my case on you, but that's an aside) so are you saying that everyone who isn't me is "probably innocent"?
I don't think that one is even my fault for being badly worded. You clearly decided to take that comment out of context. My top priority is getting the person i think most scummy lynched, nothing wrong with that!
Ok. I say "changing your story because it was made up the first time" you say "badly worded i know".
Why would i allude to another reason if i didn't have one as a mafia (rather than a badly worded townie) unless it supposed to be some kind of fruedian slip.... becuase ive never really had one in real life let alone a message i type and then send...
No Lg. You trying to convince people that you were townie, and the reason you used was that you had made a an original case on alexander, and that you had told the town not to lynch reenk and pizza, which mafia wouldn't do. Both of those are false. Here is your "original case" on alexander:
I obviously didn't make my case based on not voting for ATPG and Reenk,what i did was make a different case rather than vote for them, this wasn't the turn they drew level on votes, which i hadn't realised, but they had votes on them at the timeso rather than go for stupidly easy lynches and blend in with the crowd i decided to go for someone else... some great mafia play there...
Here are some general posts where i criticised Reenk and ATPG's lynches....
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=447
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=660
though not the round they where drawn on...
I couldn't be bothred to read that far... i read about 10 pages so far... if you wait a little later ill continue the search
One, I haven't lied.
Maybe not flat out lies but half truths and misdirection...
at best!
Does this sound like someone who thinks I'm guilty? No, it sounds like someone who is voting me because I'm going after him.
I have explained why i start voting for you, its not because you went for me... its because your acting strange... or 'off' i usually leave people who vote for me alone... especially as mafia... im pretty sure tincow warned me off engaging people who didn't believe my reveal as a god in Midgaard II, if i think an innocent person is incorrect on me i will protest my case but not revenge vote... this is different because sasaki is acting differently and this is why im voting for him... not because he's voting for me...
And LG, what you're claiming is that you said things which were scummy and that my not accepting your explanation of "well I didn't mean it that way" means I'm guilty. Except in this post you aren't suggesting I'm guilty.
Part of my claim of your guilt is your misinterpratation of my words... the one was badly worded fair enough... the rest seemed fairly clear to me and this is why i think your deliberately twisting my words into a case... go look at midgaard II i was a non attention grabbing townie... fairly by the book but not so clean i was dirty... pretty different from my behaviour now...
And in the post you quoted i wasn't calling you guilty or innocent... i was pondering your reasons for going for me and misinterpratating my posts...
Got to admire the WIFOM, eh? Dear English Godfather, you are a worthy adversary
Me... now you deserve all the credit.. your the comedian.
I would like to point out the usual strategy with revealed scum is ignore whatever they say..
No L_G, we won't kill you, we are enjoying watching you struggling with the constant inquisition.
I guess its better to have me here as lynch bait just incase one of your buddies is one of the other lynch candidates... or maybe your here to back up your buddy sasaki ?
Besides, we're not going to waste two kills on you if it can be acomplished by one lynch.
It will only require one kill to get me... go on try it... i gaurentee i die after only one attack...
Better still prove im a godfather, attack me and then the town could lynch me if i survive !!
But you would rather have me here as lynch bait to save your buddies....
Die, L_G, DIE !!! You made one mistake this game, which was killing me
I only wish i did, your buddies are going down next!
Sasaki Kojiro 21:17 03-30-2009
I'm going to let it rest here LG. And I'll say right now that I'm not going to spend all tomorrow pursuing you--so to non lg-family, you can't count on me spending all day on it, so if you want to take him out you better do it by night. I've said as much as I can say on lg, it's up to the rest of you to read the case.
Lord Winter is someone who needs attention.
LittleGrizzly 21:28 03-30-2009
So were agreed then, Andres wanted the town to lynch me and sasaki was pushing for it, now sasaki is going to put his focus elsewhere and it doesn't seem anyone else will vote for me, so surely Andres the only choice is for your family to attack me tonight and prove i am the godfather through my survival!
Plan!!
I would be quite looking forward to being revealed as innocent to hear some apologies... but i suspect the people accusing me are scum anyway.... so it will be a rather shallow victory...
Seamus Fermanagh 22:17 03-30-2009
FactionHeir:
Griz asserts that you were claiming to be a detective. Were you?
I read back through your posts and though you referenced a write-up, you didn't claim a name or a role that I saw. Did I miss summat?
Sasaki Kojiro 22:27 03-30-2009
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh:
FactionHeir:
Griz asserts that you were claiming to be a detective. Were you?
I read back through your posts and though you referenced a write-up, you didn't claim a name or a role that I saw. Did I miss summat?
Here:
Originally Posted by :
And yes, I was detective/roleblocker/protector
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...postcount=1157
White_eyes:D 22:35 03-30-2009
*looks at the quote by FactionHeir*......sounds like bull

to me.....anyone who thinks he is right has lost it...
I am growing more and more suspiscious of FH. It's known we had a third party role left, one more neutral role. If I read ATPG accusations of FH correctly, it was "You simply don't care who dies". I think were skipping out on the possibility that FH was a neutral third party role, and not protown.
I can't wait until this night is over, and see who lives.
FactionHeir 01:07 03-31-2009
What third party? I was the detective/doctor/roleblocker with the ability to start "work" on N6 incidentally. Seamus probably has detective abilities as well, not sure about the rest. Both of us are pro town I believe, or that is what I was told when I was assigned the role anyway.
Those questioning this probably have ulterior motives.
As for me not caring who dies, its more like I cared not to vote WE because I figured he was innocent but due to the fantastic way this "town" managed to set up the votes, you got 2 town killed at once.
Originally Posted by FactionHeir:
What third party? I was the detective/doctor/roleblocker with the ability to start "work" on N6 incidentally. Seamus probably has detective abilities as well, not sure about the rest. Both of us are pro town I believe, or that is what I was told when I was assigned the role anyway.
Those questioning this probably have ulterior motives.
As for me not caring who dies, its more like I cared not to vote WE because I figured he was innocent but due to the fantastic way this "town" managed to set up the votes, you got 2 town killed at once.
Glad you responded.
Pever specifically stated that there where 6 mafia in two families, 3 protown roles, and 2 neutral roles.
We have only lost one of the neutral roles, so it's possible you were neutral, since your death doesn't explicitly state your alignment, although it's possible your protown (high chance), we still have both James and Christy unaccounted for (again, going off of Pever's wiki article).
I was talking about your past behavior FH, in which ATPG continued to use the same reasoning to vote for you, not your behavior in the round you were lynched.
FactionHeir 01:23 03-31-2009
ATPG generally posts a lot but gets the wrong people lynched

(no offence ATPG :P)
Originally Posted by
FactionHeir:
ATPG generally posts a lot but gets the wrong people lynched
(no offence ATPG :P)
So I say all that and you dodge it all with a Non Sequitur? Nice
Askthepizzaguy 01:39 03-31-2009
Originally Posted by
FactionHeir:
ATPG generally posts a lot but gets the wrong people lynched
(no offence ATPG :P)
Yeah, FactionHeir, it's an interesting point. Townies don't know who to lynch, but some of them, who want to kill the mafia, try to do so. And then, when they make the wrong choice, or when other players don't vote to save themselves and others intentionally kill themselves, it's easy to blame.
Forgive me for trying.
Askthepizzaguy 01:48 03-31-2009
I do want to say, since he's dead and either pro-town or neutral, there is no point in hammering FactionHeir anymore, YLC. Perhaps another target?
White_eyes:D 01:49 03-31-2009
Askthepizzaguy 01:53 03-31-2009
NO! NO! White_Eyes... seriously. Hold on one second.
3 Irish Mafia: (from the play) Brendan, Joey, and Christy (we think)
3 English Mafia: Mike Fingers, Oswald, and... ???
3+2 Pro-town or neutral: Donney, Davey, Mairead, James... and ???
Serial Killer: Padraic
Donney cannot be mafia, nor Davey. Seriously. Think about it.
mairead was a defender or a roleblocker! Davey was a defender or a roleblocker or an investigator! Seamus is Donney, who must be either pro-town or neutral. Probably the detective, but I don't know. All I know is that Donney CANNOT be mafia.
White_eyes:D 01:54 03-31-2009
:ignore:
Askthepizzaguy 01:56 03-31-2009
GAH!!!!
I give up. Listen, White_eyes, the mafia will probably take out Seamus, because most of us think that he's the final pro-town role. When that happens, you HAVE to drop the inquisition against Donney and Factionheir.
This is not good judgment, but don't listen to me, I'm just the pizza man.
Askthepizzaguy 02:07 03-31-2009
I also want to point out that if Seamus and Factionheir are scum, then the English mafia:
Mike Fingers, Oswald, Davey, Donney.
That's 4 members. It doesn't even add up correctly. Not to mention 2 Irish names from the play. The host said that the English mafia were characters not from the play.
Askthepizzaguy 02:10 03-31-2009
Please don't edit your posts out White_eyes. Now it sounds like I'm talking to myself.
Sasaki Kojiro 02:20 03-31-2009
Whie Eyes ca yo cofirm ey ha pizzagy is akig o himsef?
White_eyes:D 02:54 03-31-2009
Originally Posted by
Askthepizzaguy:
Please don't edit your posts out White_eyes. Now it sounds like I'm talking to myself. 

....I noticed Seamus was either telling the truth or I misjudged him....

I have no idea
Askthepizzaguy 03:01 03-31-2009
Trust me, White_eyes, we all make mistakes. So, are you sending messages to the mafia Sasaki, or do you need a new keyboard?
Seamus Fermanagh 03:17 03-31-2009
Originally Posted by
White_eyes:D:
....I noticed Seamus was either telling the truth or I misjudged him....
I have no idea
I am telling the truth in my reveal. I suspect that my detective status will be confirmed emphatically in the not too distant future -- though I'll report my N7 results on Sasaki-san if I am incorrect as to that confirmation.
I cannot judge FH's "role" status. By my count we have at least one unknown/unnamed so far for each mafia (though I think you may have the names right based on the wiki piece as springboard). By my count, we still have one pro-town role (me, reenk, ?) unaccounted for as well as one neutral (AVSM, ?). There are more roles left than generic townies -- which bodes ill for the town unless we score well in the next day or two.
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