The fight for Inishmore [Concluded]

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Where exactly did Lord Winter try to suicide in the thread, and where did pever give his reply?

Also, I'm not too sure about El Diablo being Godfather just because he wouldn't take his vote off boudica. Remember, Godfathers know if somebody's guilty or innocent and can thus plan accordingly to make them look better. Townies on the other hand aren't as sure.

Not in a 2 mafia game. GF's know only the guilt of their crew -- not the other team.



If factionheir was Davey, then some of my concerns with 'khaan were clearly baseless. Too much catch up reading I guess. Skimmed too quick.


One Good Guy dies tonight (we are now down to regular mafia) leaving 2 townies, 1 neutral, and two badguys. On strict math, that makes it 50/50.


GH: Found "innocent" so he's either clean or THE baddie. Has aroused little suspicion aside from his feud with White_Eyes.

LG: Sasaki's target for half of the game or more. Also found "innocent" by me so he's either clean or THE baddie.

SK: I Died while investigating this one, so I don't have an "I" or "G" to provide you. Pizza is clearly fingering him as one of the English mafiosi.

LW: A bit under the radar here. I had not gotten to investigating him. He spend most of the first few days lurking (vote-wise) casting one vote for a now-known-to-be-townie Boudica when she came under pressure earlier.

El D: Found "innocent" and has played very low key all game, almost a lurker despite fairly regular voting.

'k: Named character with at least one resistance to night-death. Claims to be a "must survive" only character who lacks any other objective. Since we are assuming he's a "neutral" role, it makes sense to not vote for him.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Not in a 2 mafia game. GF's know only the guilt of their crew -- not the other team.

Agreed, but boudica was never suspected of being Irish mafia - only English. As is El Diablo currently.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The hilarious part is that you're the next highest suspect on mine and YLC's list, yet you're arguing that El Diablo may not be the English Godfather.

We consider, (in our thoroughly silly opinion) only you and El Diablo to be suspects now.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I just want to keep all of our options open, that's all. glyphz came out of nowhere to win Ephesus. I don't want to make that mistake twice.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Indeed. I admit, we know basically nothing... assumptions are made all the time. If I can rehash and make my opinion a little clearer, and then bow out so as not to destroy your game or your chances of winning:


1. Lord Winter or Sasaki must be Oswald. I can find the post for you where pevergreen said no to Lord Winter over the suicide, publicly, when I don't think he asked publicly. We can check all Lord Winter's posts to be sure.

2. Sasaki showed up at precisely 3:00 AM my time to save himself, which is (perhaps) townie behavior, but judgment call says mafia.

3. He may have been tipped off by one of the 3 people I mentioned.

4. Sasaki (if Oswald) has been accusing LittleGrizzly all game. If LittleGrizzly is the Godfather, I think that deserves a round of applause and the win, but that's my opinion. I like to reward bold play and punish the more predictable play, like lurking and so on.

5. Shinseikhaan survived a hit, and no one claims to be a defender or blocker, and pev confirmed that the English have the same abilities we did. Nothing but murder.

6. General, you've played a bold, bold game by accusing White_eyes. A very risky thing for a Godfather to do when you knew he was innocent by investigation. You may have played the odds too and thought... if I am the Godfather, what are the odds White_eyes is a Godfather? Pretty bad.

You took a huge gamble and lost. And you also exposed yourself to the mafioso as being part of a pro-town network, therefore making you a murder target.

7. El Diablo's contributions don't fly with me. He probably tipped off Sasaki. He cannot be Oswald, and I don't sense townie-ness from him. I've been pretty good at picking roles this game, and I smell a role here. I also smell an english rat...

8. He refused to vote for Sasaki.






I rest my case, feel free to pick it apart, General. Well played game, by all. Masterful performance by Sasaki, and brilliant moves by town with the investigations, which will indeed solve this case, I predict. And I had tons of fun.

[ULC]

The hilarious part is that you're the next highest suspect on mine and YLC's list, yet you're arguing that El Diablo may not be the English Godfather.

We consider, (in our thoroughly silly opinion) only you and El Diablo to be suspects now.

If we keep picking the same suspetcs and agreeing with each other, they might suspect we are the same person!

Quick, I'll pick GH and you can have ED! They will never know!