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    Two quotes from Aristotle's politics regarding kingship and tyranny:

    hapantes gar euergetêsantes ê dunamenoi tas poleis ê ta ethnê euergetein etunchanon tês timês tautês, hoi men kata polemon kôlusantes douleuein, hôsper Kodros, hoi d' eleutherôsantes, hôsper Kuros, ê ktisantes ê ktêsamenoi chôran, hôsper hoi Lakedaimoniôn basileis kai Makedonôn kai Molottôn.
    For in every instance this honor fell to men after they had conferred benefit or because they had the ability to confer benefit on their cities or their nations, some having prevented their enslavement in war, for instance Codrus, others having set them free, for instance Cyrus, or having settled or acquired territory, for instance the kings of Sparta and Macedon and the Molossians.
    Aristotle, Politics, Book V, 1310b

    dio kai tôn pleonektêmatôn ta men chrêmata turannika, ta d' eis timên basilika mallon: kai phulakê basilikê men politikê, turannikê de dia xenôn.
    Hence even in their requisitions money is the aim of tyrants but rather marks of honor that of kings; and a king's body-guard consists of citizens, a tyrant's of foreign mercenaries.
    Aristotle, Politics, Book V, 1311a


    The first quote is a bit long... but interesting nontheless since it references the origin of Spartan, Makedonian and Molossan kingship (it does however NOT refer to the Hellenistic kings of each of the states) as being basically spear-conquered states.

    I will post some more quotes if I stumble across any.



    EDIT:
    The detailed reference for the Aristophanes quote:

    ANGELOS

    ienai s' ekeleuon hoi stratêgoi têmeron
    tacheôs labonta tous lochous kai tous lophous:
    kapeita têrein neiphomenon tas esbolas.
    hupo tous Choas gar kai Chutrous autoisi tis
    êngeile lêistas embalein Boiôtious.

    LAMACHOS

    iô stratêgoi pleiones ê beltiones.
    ou deina mê 'xeinai me mêd' heortasai;


    HERALD

    The Generals order you forthwith to take your battalions and your plumes, and, despite the snow, to go and guard our borders. They have learnt that a band of Boeotians intend taking advantage of the Feast of Cups to invade our country.

    LAMACHUS

    Ah! the Generals! they are numerous, but not good for much! It's cruel, not to be able to enjoy the feast!

    Aristophanes, "Acharians", episode 4, lines 1073-9 [The "Ah! The Generals..." line is line 1078]
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