The Europa Barbarorum Quotes Project

[oudysseos]

Oh, Urg, re: your message: as I said, the project is not in the least finished. In fact, I had never originally intended to redo the EB1 quotes at all. For one thing, the file was a mess (I essentially redid it from scratch). So the release of the new quotes for EB1 is merely a happy by-product, and also because I felt that so many fans had done so much excellent work (like yourself) that they should enjoy the fruits of their labours sooner than the first EB2 release.

But the EB2 phase is still ongoing. There are still some old quotes left to do as far as citation goes, and a lot of new material that is specific to individual factions that I left out of the EB1 version. There is so much of it that once I get to 300 quotes, I might start eliminating any old quotes from vanilla RTW and overly familiar ones from EB1, just so the whole thing seems new. I also eventually plan, since I have all this material on a spreadsheet sorted by author, language, culture etc. to do some kind of wiki for them, with biographical info and links to the larger texts that the quotes come from. That won't be done until after EB2.

So, short answer, keep posting stuff if you want. Anything really cool will get in, and I am always on the look-out for non Graeco-Roman material.

[Alsatia]

"The result was that most of them were cut down in the order of march, without being able to defend themselves"
- Polybius, The Histories (III, LXXXIV), speaking of the battle of Lake Trasimene

I believe this is too modern.....

"United Gaul, Forming a single nation, animated by a common spirit, can defy the Universe"
- Statue of Vercingetorix, Alesia (?)

(the statue was built by Napoleon )

[Immortales]

Recently, i read in an issue of 'Ancient Warfare' a very suitable phrase:

A general should be free from avarice. "For many who can face the shields and spears of a host with courage are blinded by gold."

- Onasander; Strategikos, 1.8
A mid-first century AD greek platonic philosopher who wrote a treatsie on the role of the commander in the Roman army.

[Urg]

Here's some more missing Latin quotes/citations.

{Author_69} Publius Statius
{Quote_69} The cruelty of war makes for peace.

I looked through the Thebaid, Achilleid and Silvae and couldn’t find it. There’s a passage at Thebaid VII:806-807 that gets close. Maybe the quote is in error. Or maybe someone else can find it?

{Author_76} Publius Flavius Vegetius
{Quote_76} An ambush, if discovered and promptly surrounded, will repay the intended mischief with interest.

Latin is: Deprehensa uero subsessa, si circumueniatur utiliter, plus periculi sustinet, quam parabat inferre.

The quote is from: De Re Militari, 3:6

{Author_77} Hannibal Barca, addressing Phormio's lecture on leadership
{Quote_77} I have seen during my life many an old fool; but this one beats them all.

Latin is: multos se deliros senes saepe vidisse, sed qui magis quam Phormio deliraret vidisse neminem.

The quote is from: Cicero de oratore II 18:75

{Author_78} Publius Flavius Vegetius
{Quote_78} Few men are born brave; many become so through training and force of discipline.

Latin is: Paucos uiros fortes natura procreat, bona institutione plures reddit industria.

Quote is from: De Re Militari, 3:26

{Author_79} Publius Flavius Vegetius
{Quote_79} A general is not easily overcome who can form a true judgement of his own and the enemy's forces.

Latin is: Difficile uincitur qui uere potest de suis et de aduersarii copiis iudicare.

Quote is from: De Re Militari, 3:26

{Author_9} Gaius Julius Caesar
{Quote_9} In war important events result from trivial causes.

Latin is: Quod saepe in bello parvis momentis magni casus intercederent

Quote is from: De bello civile 1:21

{Author_98} Publius Flavius Vegetius
{Quote_98} Valour is superior to numbers.

Latin is: Amplius iuuat uirtus quam multitudo.

Quote is from: De Re Militari, 3:26

[Urg]

Two corrections in the quotes text file:

Quote 1: Hyth should be Yth

Translation 27 is incorrectly referred to as “trans_28” (when quote 27 appears on screen, the translation is missing. It does not seem to cause a crash.)

[Urg]

Final Latin additions/citations to the quotes text file:

Quote 31, Latin is: Nunc denique est perfectum ut imperii nostri terrarumque illarum idem esset extremum.

Quote 31 is from On the Consular Provinces, 33

Quote 36, Latin is: Nam si vos omnibus imperitare vultis, sequitur ut omnes servitutem accipiant?

Quote 36 is from Annales 12:37

Quote 45, Latin is Romanorum cum se non quo hostis uocasset sed quo imperatores sui duxissent ituros esse

Quote 46, Latin is Populum Romanum servire fas non est, quem di immortales omnibus gentibus imperare voluerunt.

Quote 49, Latin is Graecis, gente lingua magis strenua quam factis

Quote 58, Latin is Urbem venalem et mature perituram, si emptorem invenerit!

Quote 59, Latin is Nam, ut ego aestumo, regem armis quam munificentia vinci minus flagitiosum est.

Quote 65. Latin is Numquamne ergo familia nostra quieta erit? Semperne in sanguine, ferro, fuga vorsabitur?

Quote 66. Latin is Graecorum autem totae res publicae sedentis contionis temeritate administrantur.

Quote 66 comes from 7.16 (not 16-17)

Quote 69, Latin is Nos terrarum ac libertatis extremos

Quote 70, Latin is Auferre trucidare rapere falsis nominibus imperium, atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.

Quote 101, Latin is Qui magno imperio praediti in excelso aetatem agunt, eorum facta cuncti mortales novere.

Quote 138, Latin is Amat Victoria curam

Quote 153, Latin is Fortuna belli semper ancipiti in loco est.

Quote 153 comes from: Phoenissae, Act 4, 622

Quote 218, Latin is Plus animi est inferenti periculum quam propulsanti.