Quote Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly View Post
Bad people can do good things, if not even for a good reason, even for thier own selfish reasons bad people end up doing good things.

But when bad people do good things should we ignore thier good deeds. Should we accuse those who speak of thier good deeds of being a lover of this bad person ?

No we shouldn't. Someone who speaks of the construction of Autobahn is not professing thier love for Hitler anymore than someone who speaks of the Russians doing most of the work on the eastern front. To be honest im surprised some of the members are at the level of maturity where they can't seperate praise for individual actions from praise for the person in thier entirity...

To put the entire eastern front down to the Russian Winter (tm) is a little much... that saying so makes you a lover of Stalin is ludacris!
This basicly echos my take on the whole issue. I wrote an essay in Year 11 History entitled 'What Hitler did for Germany', specificly arguing that if he didn't go to war then he would be considered a good leader. I personally abhor any sort of dictatorship, and readily admit Hitler did many terrible things, but it is fact that elements of his rule, even if done for the wrong reasons had a good outcome.

I know little of Stalin so I wouldn't be able to give specific examples for him without drawing heavily on what has already been said (so I won't....).