Diplomacy / Trade

[Liberator]

Even so that I know in Empire now how much the other nations like (or more likely hate) me, it still puzzles me how to do it properly.

I'm playing with the Dutch, 1937 on Campaign VH Battle H, my government type is republic (which is quite disadventageous in diplomacy, but I want to keep it), my only trade partners are UK and Prussia

I get a lot of trade offers every turn (France, Spain Russia, sometimes Sweden), but they only offer trade agreements in exchange for regions (which I want to keep and sometimes need to win like Ceylon or Dutch Guyana)

Any counteroffer/offer is rejected, even if I offer them a lot of technologies, so that they would be strongly favored in the deal

[Sir Beane]

Even so that I know in Empire now how much the other nations like (or more likely hate) me, it still puzzles me how to do it properly.

I'm playing with the Dutch, 1937 on Campaign VH Battle H, my government type is republic (which is quite disadventageous in diplomacy, but I want to keep it), my only trade partners are UK and Prussia

I get a lot of trade offers every turn (France, Spain Russia, sometimes Sweden), but they only offer trade agreements in exchange for regions (which I want to keep and sometimes need to win like Ceylon or Dutch Guyana)

Any counteroffer/offer is rejected, even if I offer them a lot of technologies, so that they would be strongly favored in the deal

The AI factiosn really don't seem to appreciate technology, but boy do they love their region swaps. I eventually started taking regions I didn't want specifically so I could use them as diplomacy bartering chips.

[Beskar]

The AI hates to accept technology and they hate to give you technology.

You can offer all your technology for a region and they reject you without a blink, but, you can request one piece of technology and they want 60,000 from you for it.

Though, what was really annoying was in one game, the AI kept wanting me to trade with them, but I have to pay them 10,000, and the thing was, I get more money declining as their trade route was being pirated so I lose out on the money I would have got with them.

[GM1940]

Hm. I wonder if they've built a "no tech trading with the Hooman" bias into the game to prevent the sort of tech trading which made various versions of Civ too easy for humans who mastered it. Conversely, the more the AI tech trades among themselves, the more challenging the GC would be. Not the kind of feature I like, but it'd make sense.

[Ardri]

Give a state gift to get them to like you more and then you can get trade agreements. Playing as Prussia in 1750 or so I have 10-15 trade partners which brings in like 15k a turn. I also had to pay 1000-2000 for some of the arrangements, but that easily pays itself back in 1-2 turns.

I also got Bavaria and Wurtemburg to become my protectorates by paying them 2000.

[pevergreen]

Give a state gift to native americans and they will become protectorates.

I havent ever had the AI ask for a province.

[Liberator]

Give a state gift to get them to like you more and then you can get trade agreements. Playing as Prussia in 1750 or so I have 10-15 trade partners which brings in like 15k a turn. I also had to pay 1000-2000 for some of the arrangements, but that easily pays itself back in 1-2 turns.

I also got Bavaria and Wurtemburg to become my protectorates by paying them 2000.

I tried giving state gifts and they had a huge effect in increasing the attitudes towards me, but still, they do not accept trade agreements.

I even was offered by Sweden to give them Hannover for some tech, my counteroffer was the same + trade agreements, and they refused saying:
"I Cannot agree that our two nations need to trade, sir, for trade implies some kind of equality of worth"

I think there is need for a forced diplomacy mod!