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    Quote Originally Posted by I of the Storm View Post
    2. Military. The main armies will most probably be horse archers of various quality and heaviness for most of the game. But what about local troops, especially in those greek areas on the Crimea? Do I need allied kingdom or pastoralism to access these? In the RV I saw the lovely bosphoran archers. What do I need to build, and where to get them?
    Like said you can't get them - but neither can anyone else as long you ocupy thoose areas.

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    3. Speaking of military: Do the Sauromatae get any reforms similar to Pahlava or Saka and if so, what new kinds of military do they get?
    No the Sauromatea don't get any reforms. One thing you should know (just in case you haven't noticed) is that the Sauos can recruit all there elite troops (nobles above all since you can't build Nomadism everywhere) all over the map in every province (the Saka can do that also, Pahlav recrutiment is more limited). So actually all you need are some allied kingdoms on the right spot for some infantry, some pastorialism in distant lands for your noble horsemen and Nomadism were you think it usefull.

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    4. General strategy: Is the above outlined strategy a feasible one for early game? Should I aim to take out some neighbours early? Blitz Getai or Hai? Is the east baltic area worth the effort at all? Mid- to longterm I'm thinking of aiming for Greece,
    Well I don't know - haven't played them too long yet. What I would suggest you to consider: if you wan't you could roleplay a more realstic "nomad economy" by using the add_money cheat so that your treasury doesn't go into the red - loans and pays for soldiers is not realistic for Nomads.

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    get rich and then go Hun on everybody else.
    Hmmm... I like the idea. It should work - give 'em hell

    At first you can't get many troops as a nomad but you don't really need too many.

    Yes it can get repeative - tahts why I have many camapigns going at the same time...
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    All I did in my Sauromatae campaign was stuff all my generals in 1 army. (Lives on the Move trait wins.) With a few other low-quality horse-archers. After my generals got 3 golden chevrons. (Which is veeeerrry easy to get with Sauromatae General Bodyguard, they're immortal; even without chevrons.) I could take almost every fullstack town with autosolve. After that I didn't even need the low quality horse-archers anymore, since the Generals could charge even into a wall of pikes and only get 1 to 3 casualties.

    Anyway, train your generals tbh. Iirc, they have 43-44 defense with 3 golden chevrons. And about 14 attack? Not much that can stop nor destroy that.

    Good luck with the campaign. I enjoyed the Sauromatae a whole lot! Hope you do too! ^_^



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    Misanthropos Member I of the Storm's Avatar
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    Thank you all.
    The Sauro FMs are tanks indeed. They remind me of the Jedi Kats of old MTW.
    Well, I hope to be able to play a bit this week. Maybe I give an update...

    Thanks again!

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    So if I am playing Sauromatea and i reach south greece i cant train local troops?

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    Yes, you can. You can even train Classical Holplites in Greece.
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    The Sauromatae speak Ossetian, a language spoken in the region of Georgia that was recently fought over by Russia and Georgia. Ossetian is AFAIK the last of the Scytho-Sarmatian languages, descended from the Alan tongue, of which few samples survive. Scythian also has few surviving examples, though there have been a couple inscriptions found.

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    Default Re: Questions on Sauromatae gameplay

    Quote Originally Posted by gamegeek2 View Post
    The Sauromatae speak Ossetian, a language spoken in the region of Georgia that was recently fought over by Russia and Georgia. Ossetian is AFAIK the last of the Scytho-Sarmatian languages, descended from the Alan tongue, of which few samples survive. Scythian also has few surviving examples, though there have been a couple inscriptions found.
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    Thanks a lot.

    I was able to play some more turns. It's actually not really fun tbh. The battles are quite repetitive after a while. The distances are huge and from all the people that are bordering me right now it was the Saka who decided that it would be a good idea to go to war against me. Gah! Just when I thought I was ready to start trampling the Getai I have to dedicate a third of my army to the east. Double Gah!
    I'm not sure whether I will continue this campaign, especially when my gaming time is so limited.

    But many thanks to everybody who contributed here and answered my questions!!

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    Default Re: Questions on Sauromatae gameplay

    Quote Originally Posted by gamegeek2 View Post
    The Sauromatae speak Ossetian, a language spoken in the region of Georgia that was recently fought over by Russia and Georgia. Ossetian is AFAIK the last of the Scytho-Sarmatian languages, descended from the Alan tongue, of which few samples survive.
    That is correct, Ossetian is the last living example of Scytho-Sarmatian languages.

    Would it be an adviseable strategy to wipe out the Saka early on?



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