Russia > France

**Sir Beane** · 03-09-2009, 23:42

Originally Posted by Sheogorath

I dont deny that the FRENCH roster is rather varied, however, many OTHER nations are pretty much generic, and could use some fancy units. Look at poor Spain. They get a couple of skirmisher units, as I recall.
Would it REALLY be that much trouble too look up some famous regiment/organization from each nations history and throw it on the roster? They certainly did with the UK.
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I suppose that's the reason I proposed a mod 'fix' for this stuff. I guess it's really just a matter of opinion.

They are saving that for the DLC. Finish a faction's unit roster for the low low price of 5 pounds per faction

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**Sheogorath** · 03-09-2009, 23:52

Originally Posted by Sir Beane

They are saving that for the DLC. Finish a faction's unit roster for the low low price of 5 pounds per faction

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I think I'll stick to the modders. They can probably do a better job anyway

**Sir Beane** · 03-09-2009, 23:58

Originally Posted by Sheogorath

I think I'll stick to the modders. They can probably do a better job anyway

Not at the moment sadly, we have to wait till CA release modding tools

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**Sheogorath** · 03-10-2009, 01:19

Originally Posted by Sir Beane

Not at the moment sadly, we have to wait till CA release modding tools

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Lazy!
Back in the RTW/MTW2 days people made their own modding tools! And walked uphill both ways to do it! In the snow! With no shoes on!

**KozaK13** · 03-10-2009, 01:28

I'm prety sure britain and france have roughly equivalent unit rosters, with france having more elite infantry,

If you should feel for anyone it is the dutch...the reason im never going to play as them is their hideous blue and lack of any unique land unit, atleast in the custom battle roster, the fluyt doesnt really make up for it, seeing as the trade theatres are abit fritzy and you can get much better ships.

**ArtillerySmoke** · 03-10-2009, 01:37

Doesn't Russia get a moral bonus?

I thought I remembered reading that somewhere.

Either way - with their 9 starting provinces and relatively little threat to them initially, I can see building a massive, massive army with Russia.

In my battles with them so far they've fought really hard. The line just keeps moving, regardless of what's coming at them.

**Callahan9119** · 03-10-2009, 03:00

I cant really find an argument against the UK getting the best advanced troops. They were the pinnacle of excellence . The Austrians, Prussians and Russians were not at the meeting to decide Napoleon's and France's fate due to the quality or ability of their troops. They were already relics when 1800 rolled around. Spain was a dump.

**Wausser** · 03-10-2009, 09:01

Originally Posted by KozaK13

If you should feel for anyone it is the dutch...the reason im never going to play as them is their hideous blue and lack of any unique land unit, atleast in the custom battle roster, the fluyt doesnt really make up for it, seeing as the trade theatres are abit fritzy and you can get much better ships.

Poor us, no special units and CA didn't even gave us the correct flag, they started using the Red White Blue after the Death of The Republic of the Seven United Netherlands

**Jong** · 03-10-2009, 15:26

While I'm no history expert, the 18th Century armies were pretty unvaried in real life. I don't think anyone is really clear on how the generic units that make up the bulk of armies at the time varied from faction to faction in a really significant way. They all had the same sort of weapons and everyone used line tactics. I guess that any advantages gained technological innovations were short term as discoveries spread, which is already modeled in game. How is CA supposed to justify unique units with big stat differences given the historical reality?

Even so, I agree that the current unit rosters lack faction specific character, though its not clear how to achieve that.

It seems a bit ridiculous to add 'elite' regiments to the normal unit roster. That just encourages the player to build them to the exclusion of the other 'normal' regiments. Extra cost is not sufficient deterrent to the savvy player, or the rich one. Extra time to build though would really hit where it hurts. Perhaps build limits could be considered too.

What about a customizable unit system? Its unlikely to ever be implemented, probably abusable and ahistorical. But Total War is about changing history isn't it?