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Ok - so we all now agree that Bush was a disaster, that the Iraq invasion was a disaster and that man made climate change is going to screw us over.
So did you vote for Bush, support the war and refuse to believe in climate change?
So did you vote for Bush, support the war and refuse to believe in climate change?
Where's the "I voted for Nader, so I helped ruin the world" option?
Not directly, but I pay taxes and that's spent in my name on such projects as Iraq.
Not religious.
Originally Posted by Fragony:
Not religious.
Not religious.
Hey, nobody's perfect. Just to make it up to ya'll...here's a pretty 
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.I did support the war in Iraq at first, don't know what was riding me back then but I do not anymore for quite some time andthink I shouldn't have back then most likely so I voted that I don't. 
Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito:
Hey, nobody's perfect. Just to make it up to ya'll...here's a pretty.
Indeed they aren't. But some people's imperfections have more impact than others Hey, nobody's perfect. Just to make it up to ya'll...here's a pretty
.I sometimes queston climate change but that's all on that list, so I suppose I only ruined it a little bit. 
This is a tad melodramatic.
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
This is a tad melodramatic.
You i assume you supported the war?This is a tad melodramatic.
Originally Posted by Kush:
You i assume you supported the war?
12 when it started. To young to have an opinion.You i assume you supported the war?
That's why I didn't vote for Bush. It'd be illegal.
I do question climate change.
Did you?
Vote for Bush - Not in 2000, but yes in '04, so the same 'leadership' that got us in could get us out, of Iraq quickly.
Support war in Iraq - not the invasion (premature, I thought) & not the occupation; wanted/want a quick, safe-for-our soldiers withdrawal.
Disbelieve climate change - skeptical because of the hysteria of the damage claims; willing to spend tax money looking into it, and reducing/eliminating reliance on dead dinosaur sauce.
So yeah... I guess I helped ruin the world. :)
So, what's my penalty? Oh, the same as yours, right?: living with it.
Vote for Bush - Not in 2000, but yes in '04, so the same 'leadership' that got us in could get us out, of Iraq quickly.
Support war in Iraq - not the invasion (premature, I thought) & not the occupation; wanted/want a quick, safe-for-our soldiers withdrawal.
Disbelieve climate change - skeptical because of the hysteria of the damage claims; willing to spend tax money looking into it, and reducing/eliminating reliance on dead dinosaur sauce.
So yeah... I guess I helped ruin the world. :)
So, what's my penalty? Oh, the same as yours, right?: living with it.
im not american so no, plus im not even old enough to vote
you are missing "made bad loans that sunk the economy" (not that i know exactly sunk it....)
btw the theory of global warming (that mankind is doing it, not nature) isnt a fact.v
btw the theory of global warming (that mankind is doing it, not nature) isnt a fact.v
Originally Posted by hooahguy:
btw the theory of global warming (that mankind is doing it, not nature) isnt a fact.v
Are you going to back that up with... you know... evidence?btw the theory of global warming (that mankind is doing it, not nature) isnt a fact.v
Originally Posted by Aries777777:
im not american so no, plus im not even old enough to vote
Looks like if you aren't american you help to save the world.im not american so no, plus im not even old enough to vote
Originally Posted by CountArach:
Are you going to back that up with... you know... evidence?
He's right. Man-made global warming isn't a "fact," it's a "theory." There is evidence both for and against it.Are you going to back that up with... you know... evidence?
Originally Posted by Idaho:
Ok - so we all now agree that Bush was a disaster,
He certainly made many mistakes.Ok - so we all now agree that Bush was a disaster,
Originally Posted by :
that the Iraq invasion was a disaster
Read the news lately?that the Iraq invasion was a disaster
Originally Posted by :
and that man made climate change is going to screw us over.
Nope.and that man made climate change is going to screw us over.
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So did you vote for Bush, support the war and refuse to believe in climate change?
I love the last bit - "refuse to believe" - you sound like such a religious zealot. Michael Crighton was completely right about global warming - oh, wait, you fellows have changed it to climate change after the world stopped warming as much so you could say practically any weather event is evidence of our impending doom -being a religion.So did you vote for Bush, support the war and refuse to believe in climate change?
The same people who go around saying 'dissent is patriotic' get so angry when you are skeptical of them.
CR
I believe in Climate change, I just don't believe that it is necessarily man-made or that we can do anything about it aside from advance technologically to deal with all climate related eventualities.
I supported Bush, but he has become very difficult to defend over the past few years.
I believe in pre-emptive wars and I think that Iraq was both a good and necessary idea given the circumstances. We will see how it turns out after we leave. Yes it has cost a tremendous amount, but how much would you have paid to try out 21st century technology on the battlefield instead of just waiting to use it when we need it most. Iraq has been a sinkhole for terrorism and will be an active global contributor after it realizes that it can stand on its own feet.
I would have preferred a different Republican in the White House - I like academic types.
Do you really think that Gore or Kerry would have done any better? I'm not so sure - we might be dealing with a backlash against Democratic war-mongering instead. Bush campaigned on an isolationist platform in 2000, remember.
I support well intentioned military actions irrespective of the Admin. I defend a number of decisions surrounding Vietnam by the Dems.
I supported Bush, but he has become very difficult to defend over the past few years.
I believe in pre-emptive wars and I think that Iraq was both a good and necessary idea given the circumstances. We will see how it turns out after we leave. Yes it has cost a tremendous amount, but how much would you have paid to try out 21st century technology on the battlefield instead of just waiting to use it when we need it most. Iraq has been a sinkhole for terrorism and will be an active global contributor after it realizes that it can stand on its own feet.
I would have preferred a different Republican in the White House - I like academic types.
Do you really think that Gore or Kerry would have done any better? I'm not so sure - we might be dealing with a backlash against Democratic war-mongering instead. Bush campaigned on an isolationist platform in 2000, remember.
I support well intentioned military actions irrespective of the Admin. I defend a number of decisions surrounding Vietnam by the Dems.
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Read the news lately?
We've certainly salvaged what we could, but I'm not sure you can call Iraq a net gain by any stretch. Its chewed up massive amounts of money for little, if any, gain.Read the news lately?
Originally Posted by CountArach:
Are you going to back that up with... you know... evidence?
yeah-Are you going to back that up with... you know... evidence?
http://canadafreepress.com/2007/glob...ming020507.htm
more to come, if you want.
The organization that he runs isn't conterversy free, for all his talk about how science shouldn't take any outside funding. Plus the website it's hosted on is no were near politicaly neutral. How can any one who hosts this article that wants the Suprume court to overturn Obama's election be any where near neutral. Now if you can find anything in a peer reviewed journal then we can debate.
Good to see that only things that Americans do ruin the world 
The English are obsessed with us. They are American citizens without voting rights. It really burns their crumpets that we didn't fight harder in the revolution and take them with us.
Climate change is not Bush' fault. It's just a problem caused by billions of our kind on this earth. It's just way too much. If we'd rapidly decrease in numbers environmental problems would decrease along.
Planting some extra trees here and there or having the industry let out 10% less Co2 isn't going to help at all. Those things are just to keep the people happy and not too much worried about the climate.
Planting some extra trees here and there or having the industry let out 10% less Co2 isn't going to help at all. Those things are just to keep the people happy and not too much worried about the climate.
Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff:
The English are obsessed with us. They are American citizens without voting rights. It really burns their crumpets that we didn't fight harder in the revolution and take them with us.
Yeah.....that's it.....exactly....right on.The English are obsessed with us. They are American citizens without voting rights. It really burns their crumpets that we didn't fight harder in the revolution and take them with us.
In b4 "SADDAM HAD WMDS"
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