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    Quote Originally Posted by the tokai View Post
    THIS. IS. CARTHAGE!!!
    Baaaahahaha-cough-cough ROFLMAOTICOAPAD.
    For those of you not yet initiated in the refined at of internet abbreviations that means: rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off till I choke on a pretzel and die.

    I wanted to say that, but you were faster.

    Seriously, though. Depending on how you look at it, it's not that bad.
    Sure, it's beyond ridiculous from a historical perspective, but you have to see the bright side. At least this way History (sic) Channel can make enough money to sponsor more historical shows... if they do decide to do that, eventually- which I hope they will.

    Also, this way some of those pimpled teenagers who think Leonidas was "kewl" in 300 might actually take a keen interest in (the real) history and study it... eventually ending up enslaved in the EB (II) world like some of the rest of us.

    So... it's all good.

    And, personally, I loved 300. Amazing on all counts. Frank Miller deserves my respect (though that's mostly for his Batman comics), but even 300. The graphic novel was a little more historical than the movie. But my point here is that Miller was one of the few "mainstream" producers and graphic-novelists who understood what a "hero" was supposed to be, all Jerry Bruckenheimer movies notwithstanding.
    Of course the movie was going to be "artistic", what did you expect? And a bit of Hollywood was -sadly- unavoidable, but overall it was great... and much more historically accurate than I expected it to be (although, admittedly, my expectations were considerably low... I honestly thought that, apart from 300 Spartans and some Persians there would've been nothing of history in there). Even the famous "This is Sparta!" was fairly accurate (and great)... although the "punch line" for that one was supposed to be "there are plenty of earth and water down there [the well]" when Leonidas kills the Persian emissary, but hey... they had to add something of their own, right?

    But Hannibal looking like some blood-thirsty barbarian out of a D&D video-game/God of War is just... LL
    To settle the deal between Romans and Greeks once and for all... both Italy and Greece are in deep s*** at the moment. Do you really think who had the biggest spear in antiquity makes any difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Βελισάριος View Post

    And, personally, I loved 300. Amazing on all counts. Frank Miller deserves my respect (though that's mostly for his Batman comics). The graphic novel was a little more historical than the movie. But my point here is that Miller was one of the few "mainstream" producers and graphic-novelists who understood what a "hero" was supposed to be, all Jerry Bruckenheimer movies notwithstanding.
    Of course the movie was going to be "artistic", what did you expect?
    I beg to differ on a point:

    1-the batman series did start out cool, but the remainder was worthy of an allmighty panning..you noticed that he gets worse over time? for example, I still cannot get over that "I'm the Goddamn Batman" part from the second issue...Batman should never say this-he just...doesn't sound right... and the whole comic was a microcosm of either a mental degeneration, or a showcase of Wahnsinn...



    for all you who are confused:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=limH...eature=related

    check it out.

    check out the dialogue under the video too.
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    I've largely stopped watching the History Channel. I'm tired of hearing about the Freemasons, secret societies, and reports of Atlantis near Japan. I loathe it when they have some show called "The True Dragon Emperor," just because The Mummy 3 came out. I have no interest in the history of cheese, or any of that other mundane crap, often about American Industrialization. This Battles BC show looks awful. Honestly, the best part of the History Channel might be the WWII crap that they've beaten us over the head with since the beginning of time.
    But my final realization is that the History Channel is not reserved for historians at all. Once in awhile, I'll tune in to a show about the Battle of Qadesh or an Egyptian tomb which is fantastic for any historian, but most shows are clearly for the common layman who just wants to watch something briefly, muse "that's interesting," and forget about it.
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    AP, you need to get out more ;-)

    Or perhaps it is just us Danes who see nothing wrong in depicting that part of history/life as it is. Sex is one of the most important themes in any person's life, surpassed by love- but there is lots of that in Rome too, mostly tainted by politics and hatred though and not much ending happily, but it is there. There is hatred, another powerful motivator, and if you know the factors that killed the Res Publica Romana it is truly excellent, for it depicts them all.
    'For months Augustus let hair and beard grow and occasionally banged his head against the walls whilst shouting; "Quinctillius Varus, give me my legions back"' -Sueton, Augustus.

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