Quote Originally Posted by Ibrahim View Post
I wish to also add: my grandfather was an Imam when he was alive, and he followed the prophet's sunnah to the letter-everything that was consistent with, and related to the Qur'an (that way he avoided doing the wrong things), as well as the good book itself. and he wasn't exactly "evil and hypocritical", but the very opposite. he never raised voice, attacked anyone, and he treated his wife very very well by all accounts. so where in this does Islam teach doing evil, if all proper applications are the exact opposite? and none of the sahabah exhibited evil tendencies (sternes, yeah, not evil)

this is to show you what kind of person islam is theoretically supposed to make. and so far, all good muslims I have met have been the very oppoite of what you predict, and all are very clear that they follow his example. I have yet to see one person who truly did, and ended up a terrorrist or criminal...


no this is not an appeal to consequence-just citing examples of what proper following of Islam does

wait one second: this was in a thread about Sweden? I see now.... (no I have nothing against Sweden-just what I heard about the immigrents there)
Well, we can all move along now. Your grandfather was a good guy, there are no homosexuals in Iran, and women are treated very very well by all accounts.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm relieved. For a minute there, I was sure there were incredible human rights abuses and a dangerous fomentation of terrorism within the islamic world. Silly me.

Are such insightful anecdotes how you won all those 258 debates?