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**caravel** · 03-22-2009, 22:38

Originally Posted by CrowleyHammer

Just one question how do you build Longbowmen? im certain i have created the buildings i need acording to the printed pull out poster tech tree that came with the game, this is with M:TW and VI vanilla early.

Longbows are available from the High era (1205 onwards).

**CrowleyHammer** · 03-22-2009, 23:40

oh nuts, well..thats been a complete waste of my time then lol, and that makes my loss against the French even more devastating..sigh.

**PershsNhpios** · 03-23-2009, 00:02

You should remember that when you receive a papal warning, it is not so much an immediate order to stop your aggression so much as a casual notice of, "I will look the other way for two years, just make sure you are done by then!".

Simple enough! You could have taken the Pyrenees in two years!

A cornered faction with a large army simply cannot be trusted.
If you want to spare the life of an enemy, make sure you have him besieged in his last province with <300 men, and then retreat away.
Otherwise your heirs shall inherit the Hundred Years War.

Also, there is one thing which held me back for a very long time in RTW and MTW;
Being afraid to lose provinces to siege.

Surely, it is different in RTW, but in this game having a province besieged is damaging, but it sometimes is crucial to a better success.
If leaving one province unprotected whilst you send an army deep into the heart of the enemy land means that it will be besieged on the next turn, it is well worth the victory.
This may not be problematic for you, but I know that I still despise seeing someone else colour my lands!

Simply create good fortifications, garrison them weakly, and try always to have one army available to all provinces.
For example, in the event of war with the Romans, you could fend them off decisively with one army in flanders, because that province has such fine access to others.

Of course, this is only a strategy for Europe. Naval steps should be taken to ensure that the homeland is never touched.

Hmmm! I should get back to my Portuguese game!
You should try your hand at that, Crowley, the Byzantines control everything east of Venice excepting the far north, and they have also taken a great slew of land which borders on the baltic sea. (Prussia, Pomerania, Lithuania).
Worst of all, they have a navy surrounding mine, armies ready to strike anywhere, and when I recently retreated from an italian province, they took it 'from my faction' and now we are at war.

I wish I could convince the computer that I did not want the province! It is ok! I forgive the Eastern Emperor!

**caravel** · 03-23-2009, 02:00

This is my current campaign. Hopefully some crusades, Mongols, Hungarians or others will soon be heading my way. But first I have to deal with the Byzantine.

**PershsNhpios** · 03-23-2009, 02:30

Is that a mod of your own, Nagamasa?

Or what mod is it that gives so many provinces in the east?

You must also tell how one deals with both Egyptians and Byzantines at once, for I failed at that trial.

**caravel** · 03-23-2009, 02:56

Yes, it is my own personal mod.

Visible Byzantine provinces clockwise from bottom:

Cyprus
Antalya (including Rhodes)
Nicaea
Constantinople
Thessaly (or Macedonia)*
Sinope
Trebizond

Seljuk provinces clockwise from left:

Konya**
Rum**
Armenia**
Georgia
Mosul
Aleppo
Antioch
Lesser Armenia
Edessa

*Greece is divided into Thessaly, Epirus, Athens and Morea
**Starting provinces (1087)

The trick to taking on the Egyptians and Byzantine at once is to focus on the former. In Vanilla MTW the Byzantine usually won't ally with you at first but they will not attack you for a good many years (in this campaign the Byzantine have not attacked me as yet), the Egyptians will always ally with you but will almost certainly attack as soon as they are able.