Something cavalry really needs in a patch

[Fisherking]

I see nothing wrong with killing cavalry which charges into stakes.

But you know what! It is not just at the charge!

In M2 they could walk through them just fine, but not in this game!

If a horseman gets to close to a stake they will inevitability through themselves upon it to die. I won’t tell you that horses aren’t that dumb, it’s a game thing. But walking by them should not be a deadly matter.

With horse artillery if you loose a horse you loose three and a gun. I have marched my horses around trying to miss where they have been placed at choke points, and at a walk I might add and all in single file. If the spot is too narrow the first guy is going to die. I think they may be just a bit too deadly!

I can live with it, but is sure is not my favorite feature.

[Polemists]

I assume do to the fact calvary used to be immensely over powered they are not substantially under powdered. They are almost useless in melee combat, horrible in a charge, and die on just about anything, against just about anything. They also have very poor morale from what I have seen.

Still they are useful for making half the ai chase you with 5 calvary units, but that is about it.

On occassion Horses do something that impresses me, but most of the time calvary is best brought to the battle in very small quantities. Like Artillery.

[foop]

I see nothing wrong with killing cavalry which charges into stakes.

But you know what! It is not just at the charge!

I agree. If you charge your cavalry into stakes, you deserve to lose them. At walking pace, they should avoid the obstacle.

I find this particularly annoying when the AI puts one tiny unit half way across the map, on its own, protected by stakes and then, as soon as the battle starts, runs it to someone else. This leaves some stakes miles from nowhere and hard to see unless you zoom in. I've been walking a unit of cavalry back from chasing routers and checked back up on them, only to see the last of the line blindly stumbling into the stakes and dying.

Gah! Didn't you notice the 44 horses in front of you slowly impaling themselves on the great big wooden stakes? Is there even any room left on the stakes after you've squashed 44 other horses onto them?

[Fisherking]

The stakes seem to vanish after killing a horse, but that is no consolation when your line of horsemen all march blithely into them.

It may be just my opinion but horsemen this time out are weak enough without having them be suicidal to go with it.

I would have them be able to walk past stakes and charge through if you are on the back side of them…they should be one way obstacles.

[IvarrWolfsong]

the only impressive thing I have seen from cavalry in the game so far is ulhans charge the rear of infantry that is taking cover against a wall. You will kill almost the entire unit on the charge.
They can also be usefull for killing arty but it takes a lot of micro

[Sheogorath]

As I said in other topics, cavalry in this era had a few particular uses and were not much good outside of them.

The age of frontal cavalry charges is over and done. It's impressive, and a good way to waste a lot of horses, but wont be much use in terms of changing the course of the battle.

Cavalry are rather like the air force. Their main purpose is 'shock and awe', and supporting the ground forces. Cavalry do not win battles.

Charge from the flanks or the rear, preferably against an already engaged enemy who cant turn to face your men.

A simultaneous charge from infantry (from the front) and cavalry (from the rear) is good enough to route just about anybody.

[A Very Super Market]

I like to catch early Line Infantry while they are reloading.... :D

Nar, but seriously, cavalry certainly has diminished in usefulness, but the prestige associated with them remains. Also, if you have cavalry, but they don't, it still comes down to tactics because you have less men in total.

[Callahan9119]

Man, this thread quickly went off topic.

I think the OP was complaining about cavalry just running into stakes and dying when there is nobody within shouting distance of them. They should become "inactive" if a unit isnt a certain distance from them.

Micro is fine, but I'm sure all of us send our cav after routers, then turn our attentions back to those that are still a threat. Nobody wants their cav being decimated by some lonely stakes because the cavalry couldnt decide by themselves to change their course by a few meters while chasing 12 enemy fleeing to the hills.