Economic Domination

**Ishmael** · 03-20-2009, 12:28

tch...as the maratha i have about 100k income, 80k profit (give or take a bit)
I am trading with nearly all the major european powers, i control all of india and i have a heck of a lot of workshops.
So much cash...*drools*

**Vlad Tzepes** · 03-20-2009, 12:44

As GB I make around 50K per turn (it's 1765) but I still want more...more... MORE!

Lessons:
Trade rules. War with any faction that gets naval access will block trade routes. Bad move.
Long trade partners have to be kept happy, never start a war with them.
Wars are costly. Better buy provinces from friends than get them by force from enemies.
South America provinces have nice gold mines. Must.Have.Gold.
Keep armies low, army upkeep is the biggest burden on your budget.
Check ministers often, fire bad managers.
Research production techs and social techs. If you don't have to fight with guns, win with money.

Bought Egypt from Ottomans for 125K + Trinidad Tobago. The Turks absolutely love me now

I just bought Bengal (GB province mission) from Maratha for a whopping 200K + Tripolitania.

I'm at 300K right now and plan to buy everything left to win the game (New France, Hindustan and another Indian province).
Or maybe I'll kick some French ass just for fun, after all.

Next campaign I plan to go over 1 Mil. I'm Uncle Scrooge Total War

**littlejames** · 03-20-2009, 12:45

How can you have so many trade partners?

Whenever I attempt to trade I get the message "The other country's ports are full - you can't trade".

How do I get around that?

**Darth Venom** · 03-20-2009, 13:21

Simple: Build more trade ports/upgrade existing ones. Torch fishing ports in provinces that can't develop any more towns.

Edit: Didn't read your post properly, sorry. If their ports are full, there's nothing you can do exept wait until they upgrade them/ build more. Checking the diplomacy screen regularly helps, to prevent AI factions from beating you to trade agreements.

On the matter of buying provinces for > 100k:
I found that this can lead to great advantages for the selling AI faction versus their AI adversaries. I bought upper Canada as Sweden from the French for ~120.000 and a few turns later they dominated the seas around Europe, completely sealing of the British Isles. Before the Brits hat complete Naval domination...

**Jong** · 03-20-2009, 13:33

On the matter of buying provinces for > 100k:
I found that this can lead to great advantages for the selling AI faction versus their AI adversaries. I bought upper Canada as Sweden from the French for ~120.000 and a few turns later they dominated the seas around Europe, completely sealing of the British Isles. Before the Brits hat complete Naval domination...

This is quite a big concern for me. I am already starting to see exponential growth in french forces. They have just destroyed Savoy. They don't seem to be selling the provinces I want to buy though

tch...as the maratha i have about 100k income, 80k profit (give or take a bit)
I am trading with nearly all the major european powers, i control all of india and i have a heck of a lot of workshops.
So much cash...*drools*

Ah but as the maratha, you can go on a conquest spree and even on VH, the territorial expansion penalty won't hit outside your home theatre. That means that your European friends are still willing to trade with you. A European country that wants to have friends needs to be a lot more restrained.

Hmm... maybe I should have picked maratha instead. More action

I picked GB for my experiment because I thought could get the biggest territorial gains for the least amount of conquering. That was before I found that territorial expansion penalty was confined to the home theatre.

I wonder if indian provinces start out a lot richer than the horribly undeveloped american ones. Did you know that the 13 colonies start off with ZERO towns?

**Darth Venom** · 03-20-2009, 13:45

Originally Posted by Jong

This is quite a big concern for me. I am already starting to see exponential growth in french forces. They have just destroyed Savoy. They don't seem to be selling the provinces I want to buy though

Nothing one can do afterwards. I assume the AI love to blow all its money on unit queues.

**The historian** · 03-20-2009, 14:54

That's milk money man as the United Provinces i have 183000.Can be dangerous though the french blockaded my port 2 turns if i had not been cautious and had spent my 200000 reserve i would have gone bankrupt in one turn.

**Monsieur Alphonse** · 03-20-2009, 14:59

As GB I have all of India and North America in 1752. I have a profit of 100,000 per turn. I could have more but I have trained some exotic armies and fleets just for the fun.

**andrewt** · 03-20-2009, 17:14

In my UP game (almost 1740), I now make roughly 60k a turn but have only 100k in the bank. I'm addicted to building improvements everywhere. I have roughly 26 provinces, which built around 20+ global trading ports between them.

I'm now building fleets since I barely have any. Building quite a few third rates. Second rates look crappy so I'm waiting for my upgrades to finish so I can build first rates.

**Liberator** · 03-20-2009, 13:38

Originally Posted by Ishmael

tch...as the maratha i have about 100k income, 80k profit (give or take a bit)
I am trading with nearly all the major european powers, i control all of india and i have a heck of a lot of workshops.
So much cash...*drools*

I am in war with maratha and gain 20k every round just by raiding their trade routes to europe

if I would trade with them, I would get only 7k and they 11k