"What if..." Thread

[Aemilius Paulus]

EEII was made by a different company.

The expansion to EEI was made by another company.

Basically the same team however.

If you did something right the first time, it is hard to screw up on adding to it.

Someone please enlighten this poor deluded fella'. Most games go on a downward curve on ratings and even revenues. Most games start out with an original hit and then get worse every time. Ask veteran TW players. They agree. I hate ETW even more then MiNO

Empire Earth wasn't similar to RoN.... It lacked most of RoNs ability to emulate the real world, as well as encouraging "classic" RTS behaviour.

Look, you know better than criticising comparisons. Most players agree that EE, AoE, and RoN all go along the same lines. They are all very similar in their mechanics and the fact they have historical settings. RoN and EE are very similar in their time period, or specifically the fact that they encompass all (EE) or most (RoN) of the human history.

[A Very Super Market]

Rise of Legends sort of did it for me.

My point is, if you keep the same idea of the game, and not go through the stupid pre-release hype and all that, games only get better. I retract my comment on a sequel, but just change it to asking for another, more progressive expansion. No, scratch that, an entirely different game. I just screwed my own argument, forget it.

I agree that they are all RTS that use human history, but that's where it ends.

[Cyclops]

Lovely to imagine winning Mega Lotto (several billion would do) or inventing and patenting cold fusion, and funding a really mega mega Ancient battlefield/strategy game. I'm not a dev's eye-lash, but I'd want to take the EB tam on of course, and headhunt some back-up talent top put together a suite of truly magnificent games. I'd be askling for Rome of course, but also Middle Earth and Melnibonean games, and maybe some Horse and Musket period too.

Hard to fault the lovely work the team does, and would love to see more of it. I guess donatons is the way to go.

[desert]

Keep in mind that just because you hate a game it doesn't make it bad.

[Aemilius Paulus]

I agree that they are all RTS that use human history, but that's where it ends.

I disagree. They use basic same concepts and game mechanics. You look too mcuh into the small details and not enough into the large. Remember how varied the RTS games are. EE, AoE, RoN, AoM, RaF:CaW, etc all follow the same model.

Anyone else support me?

[A Very Super Market]

RTS's can only differ in small details, because changes to the large would not make them an RTS anymore. These small differences are incredibly influential. Neither EE or AoE takes into accounts actual shifting borders, the importance of supply, the strategic placing of cities, or the importance of on and off wars, not endless deathmatches. In the beginning, at least.

[Olaf Blackeyes]

I have played nearly ALL of the games that you guys are talking about.
EE was by far one of the greatest games EVAR!!!!!!!
RoN & RoL were both awesome as well, i really enjoyed the latter because of its fantasia settings.
AoE I & II were teh 1337!!!!!!! III was when it started the mode.
I will admit the EE and AoE models dont take into account for alot of the real world things, but these games were developed back in the 90s and they ****ing ruled so give them some credit.

[Ca Putt]

one big difference between AoE and EE is that sequels in AoE can take place in a different time setting whereas in EE the first part covered right about everything. if you wan't a success full sequel to a game that has the same setting you have to introduce a really important development (like highly improved graphics as in MTW-M2TW).
That's probably the reason why RoL was set in a world full of steampunk, magic and Divine Power.

EE2 on the other hand had many(partly useless and silly) small improvements which made the game too complex but did not add any depth to the game, but still had the same time line, and the graphics were just marginally better.

or you can take option B and add a storyline to the game like CnC and Starcraft.

[Aemilius Paulus]

I have played nearly ALL of the games that you guys are talking about.
EE was by far one of the greatest games EVAR!!!!!!!
RoN awesome as well
AoE I & II were teh 1337!!!!!!! III was when it started the mode.

Yep. Absolutely agree. EE was probably my absolute favourite. And AoE III was a step backwards.

[Strategos Alexandros]

EB, with the option to fight battles Mount and Blade style, and no hardcodes. Nuff sed.