Features the EB team wants to see in R2TW

[Jolt]

Realistic Familly trees and succession isn't asking too much is it? Meaning brothers and sisters marry in Egypt, and normally in most factions, the eldest son of the Faction Leader gets automatic choice as Faction Heir. That way, we don't get dozens of disenherited throughout the game.

[roadrunner]

Along with supply lines, the change I would most like to see is the ability of an army in enemy territory to affect the loyalty of nearby cities if another army is not present to face it or if that army has been defeated (think Hannibal in Italy or Alexander in the Near East). This would get rid of the need to endlessly lay siege to enemy cities after a major victory (which is not entirely realistic).

[ray243]

I think the reason why many people are dissapointed with RTW vanilla is due to the fact that CA decided to go with the popular history mindset when designing the game.

If the EB team are the one designing the next R2TW from scratch, the gameplay of RTW and R2TW will be totally different.

[Cute Wolf]

@ray 243
auto select heir as M2TW do? nope... better to remove disinherited trait. I got annoyed in my British Island English campaign, since Edward decide to give the Throne to his firstborn son, a noob with 0 stars, 0 chivalry, and 0 management, but 7 loyalty... instead of choose his second son, a battle-tested general with 8 command, 9 dread, and 7 management, still have 6 loyalty.

Actually I just want to see the fort are capable to produce some levies and mercs... not only act as empty defensive structures.

[ray243]

Which reminds me of another thing, you should be able to recruit a unit, and choose the amount of training they shall recieve.

If you have no enemies near your borders for several years and wish to save more money, you may want to lower the cost of your army by lowering the training. In a way, it creates a scenario where the performance of your army varies, not because of experience alone, but training as well.

This means some armies can be said to be a professional army, taking a long time to train, with you allocating a decent amount of resources and time for the unit's training. In case of emergency, you can raise a conscript army with less training.

Basically, for some units of Roman legionnaires, you can divert them more training and resources, while for other Roman legionnaire units, they will have less resources and less training. They are still the same units, but their unit attributes can vary.

Other than that, being able to orgainse the list scrolls helps alot, if you want to keep track of 20 over armies.

[Cambyses]

Which reminds me of another thing, you should be able to recruit a unit, and choose the amount of training they shall recieve.

If you have no enemies near your borders for several years and wish to save more money, you may want to lower the cost of your army by lowering the training. In a way, it creates a scenario where the performance of your army varies, not because of experience alone, but training as well.

This means some armies can be said to be a professional army, taking a long time to train, with you allocating a decent amount of resources and time for the unit's training. In case of emergency, you can raise a conscript army with less training.

Basically, for some units of Roman legionnaires, you can divert them more training and resources, while for other Roman legionnaire units, they will have less resources and less training. They are still the same units, but their unit attributes can vary.

Other than that, being able to orgainse the list scrolls helps alot, if you want to keep track of 20 over armies.

I think these are great ideas. Maybe you could extend the training one by making some eilte units only available as an "upgrade" to units that had a certain level of experience/training. Which has the dual effect of giving elites real meaningful value and of stopping the AI (and the player) of spamming them. This system could also encourage the idea of a "training resource" that determines how many units can be trained at one time and how quickly - even maybe at an empire wide level, with just "militia", local or the lowest tier troops available from individual settlements.

[Cute Wolf]

Its what Edward would do. Picking a younger son in Real Life would often lead to Civil War, since it was the right of the eldest to succeed, despite his abilities.

And the very same Edward then tell his oldest son... Go with 4 groups of English Knights, 5 longbowmen, and 6 armoured sergeants (looks like a decent army)... give a punch to William Wallace... but remember son, to show your bravery and worth,... you must lead the charge right onto scot's william wallace's personally... when wallace was move in front of their pike formation... and edward secretly order some of his knights to stop... letting his son die "Heroically - with killing Willam Wallace"

That sounds a nice roleplay, since the other nobility will perceive that his firstborn son was a real hero...

[Atraphoenix]

NO HARDCODES!

[Ibrahim]

NO HARDCODES!

a near impossability: hardcodes are needed to establish basic parameters for the executable to run on (unit limit, size limit, etc). the best that can be done, is to reduce the hardcoded material to a minimum level. I'm not saying it can't be done, but the number of .txt files to run the parameters an executable RTW''s size is too much, not to mention the time it takes to process it all..

[Jolt]

@ray 243
auto select heir as M2TW do? nope... better to remove disinherited trait. I got annoyed in my British Island English campaign, since Edward decide to give the Throne to his firstborn son, a noob with 0 stars, 0 chivalry, and 0 management, but 7 loyalty... instead of choose his second son, a battle-tested general with 8 command, 9 dread, and 7 management, still have 6 loyalty.

Actually I just want to see the fort are capable to produce some levies and mercs... not only act as empty defensive structures.

Its what Edward would do. Picking a younger son in Real Life would often lead to Civil War, since it was the right of the eldest to succeed, despite his abilities.

[Ibrahim]

@ray 243
auto select heir as M2TW do? nope... better to remove disinherited trait. I got annoyed in my British Island English campaign, since Edward decide to give the Throne to his firstborn son, a noob with 0 stars, 0 chivalry, and 0 management, but 7 loyalty... instead of choose his second son, a battle-tested general with 8 command, 9 dread, and 7 management, still have 6 loyalty.

Actually I just want to see the fort are capable to produce some levies and mercs... not only act as empty defensive structures.

see to it that his regn is cut short before he has issue-that will do it (hopefully).

[eddy_purpus]

The ability for armies to use spies / scouts instead of having an line of sight...
that be awesome ...
Not knowing that you are marching towards a big enemy army and then bam!
A big war !

[Spartiaths]

Naval Battles?? Perhaps?? They've done it once they can do it again
The auto resolve system is clearly unfair to the player (odds 5:1 in favour of the player and you suddenly lose!!!!!!!!! OMG!!! )
And a much more challenging AI at least on the higher levels not just extra bonuses to make things difficult ... and still not enough

[Tanit]

Forgot to mention, the ability to record battles fought in the campaign, that would be awesome, as well as very useful for testing the game.

[ray243]

I wish they could have a system that depicts or centralised or de-centralised your nation is. For example, some babarian faction can always be more de-centralised, while some factions are far more centrailsed.

[Charles the hammer]

Id like to see the ability to reform your military by copying other militaries and what not. or the ability to change your existing units equipment. I mean thats what made rome so great they realized when their equipment just wasnt the best.

[JbG]

I would like to see the no diplomats and technology tree like in Empire. The way that could be modded would be terrefic.

[the unique joe]

not sure if it has been mentioned before but these are some ideas i would like to see implemented: supply lines, along with what others have said and intigrating the natural death per turn while on campaign, why not have movement points along with natural death play along the lines with how far you are from the nearest friendly (ally, owned, or even trade rights neutral?) settlement, the longer your supply line the more the elements take their tax on your troops, including movement points, morale, death, desertion, ect.

military aid/borrowing: if you are in good standing with another country who is more powerful than you and someone invades you, you have a good economy but your recruitment tech is sub par, ask for military aid? say borrowing troops, rent a hoplite so to speak. or you dont want to get directly involved in a conflict so your rep doesent go down and you want a side to have the edge, loan them an army, they pay the wages of the troops plus tax.

peaceful annexation: i know kind of defeats the purpose of "total war" but why not have perfect rep with someone and you marry your son into their royal family, when his turn comes around smack damn you just annexed the small kingdom of "genericovia" into your empire, they are happy your happy and nobody (except royalty) dies. you could even be a foul man marry your royal families together and eliminate the other possible rulers in their tree with a few "oh happy dagger"s

[Moosemanmoo]

I'd love it if the conquest of key (large/capital) cities had greater impact on the war, like other nearby cities being abandoned or coming under your rule

Or if you annihilate the enemies' army, perhaps some local regions succumb to you also?

I just thought that if Hannibal had taken Rome, would Capua/Arpi/Arretium/Ariminum/etc all keep going? Obviously it would mess up gameplay if this caused factions to be easily wiped out but it's just an idea

After reading alot about Alexander it's pretty clear he destroyed Persia by winning key battles in the field (Granicus/Issus/Guagamela), not by taking a million years besieging each an every settlement

[DaciaJC]

Heh, I like the idea of taking out the Yellow Fever with a single stroke...

[Alsatia]

This could be scripted into EBII, well... I Think.

[Skullheadhq]

They could, just like HoI 3 script their AI in lud so everybody can edit it to what they want.