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[Megas Methuselah]

Excluding the as yet unknown tribes on the west coast, I've got 22 Native American factions up so far. The regions are still liable to a change in the future, as are the factions themselves.

For example, the 4 northern-most factions. They are of the Cree branch, but I've divided them into 4 factions roughly based on their dialects. I'm still unsure of how to represent them.

Most of the tribes aren't represented, only the major ones. Btw, most of the colours are just things I made up on the way. They in no way represent the faction colours as they should be in-game.

[chairman]

@Methuselah: where did you get that base map, and what program do you use for creating it?

Chairman

[Megas Methuselah]

It was in the OP. I edited it manually through gimp, and did not do a very good job in some places.

[Darth Venom]

I did the OP pictures in Photoshop. If anyone is interested in the psd files PM me.

Also a few (of my opinions) on Methuselahs map:

1. Great job on the research! I would have no idea where to find that information.

2. Uninhabited/sparsly inhabited areas should not wilderness, rather than belong to a province. Firstly, this makes it more difficult to expand by "province hopping" and secondly it allows for much longer walking distances which in turn gives that "open land with not too much in it feeling" I like about the current NA map (Plains & New Mexico)

3. Although it might be realistic, there seem to be too many factions. Just a gut feeling though. But if we were to compare population numbers of the provinces/factions here to those of the Italian & German states... Some of this might be solved by using 2. though.

[lenin96]

3. Although it might be realistic, there seem to be too many factions. Just a gut feeling though. But if we were to compare population numbers of the provinces/factions here to those of the Italian & German states... Some of this might be solved by using 2. though.

But if we have so many factions we can stop one faction from becoming a superpower too quickly. Most of them I imagine some would have none/not many unique units so it shouldn't be too hard.

[Megas Methuselah]

2. Uninhabited/sparsly inhabited areas should not wilderness, rather than belong to a province. Firstly, this makes it more difficult to expand by "province hopping" and secondly it allows for much longer walking distances which in turn gives that "open land with not too much in it feeling" I like about the current NA map (Plains & New Mexico)

Well, we could solve that by combining many of the provinces, which should in turn eliminate many of the smaller factions.

But I'm not sure about the making sparsely inhabited regions into wilderness. The whole of North America was contained a small population compared to Europe. Should the continent itself then be a wilderness?

[Megas Methuselah]

But if we have so many factions we can stop one faction from becoming a superpower too quickly. Most of them I imagine some would have none/not many unique units so it shouldn't be too hard.

[Noddy The Beefy Egg]

Excluding the as yet unknown tribes on the west coast, I've got 22 Native American factions up so far. The regions are still liable to a change in the future, as are the factions themselves.

For example, the 4 northern-most factions. They are of the Cree branch, but I've divided them into 4 factions roughly based on their dialects. I'm still unsure of how to represent them.

Most of the tribes aren't represented, only the major ones. Btw, most of the colours are just things I made up on the way. They in no way represent the faction colours as they should be in-game.

Inuits and haidas should be put on the list. The Chumash tribe of California can be a faction for the province. And makes changes to the Inuits. Make it Eskimo. Double post! Methuselah, you are Cree, or Nēhiyawēwin, right?

[Megas Methuselah]

Inuits and haidas should be put on the list. The Chumash tribe of California can be a faction for the province. And makes changes to the Inuits. Make it Eskimo. Double post! Methuselah, you are Cree, or Nēhiyawēwin, right?

It's not done yet, man. I still have to do the west coat and I'm still deciding whether the Inuit are actually worth putting in.

And yes, I'm Cree, Saulteaux, and Metis. But I grew up with a mostly-Saulteaux family.

[pevergreen]

Keep in mind, right now, it isnt easy to add all this, plus with that many new factions in that area alone, well, colours are going to be scarce.

it looks good though!

[Noddy The Beefy Egg]

It's not done yet, man. I still have to do the west coat and I'm still deciding whether the Inuit are actually worth putting in.

And yes, I'm Cree, Saulteaux, and Metis. But I grew up with a mostly-Saulteaux family.

Saulteaux? you mean Ojibwa

[Megas Methuselah]

Saulteaux? you mean Ojibwa

Yes and no. They speak the same language with seperate dialects. Moreover, the Saulteaux largely became a plains tribe, while the Ojibwe remained in the Great Lakes area. But for simplicity's sake, I included them together as one faction.

Keep in mind, right now, it isnt easy to add all this, plus with that many new factions in that area alone, well, colours are going to be scarce.

it looks good though!

Nothing's going to happen at all unless there's a modding breathrough at the TWC.

[pevergreen]

Or official mod tools.