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    Default So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    Clearly from the huge volume of complaints and reported bugs, ETW was released before it was ready. Right now, ETW has only two stars on Amazon.com ( http://www.amazon.com/Empire-Total-W...ews/B0018YXM3Y )

    So I'm glad I waited and decided not to buy initially.

    But when do you think the game will be okay for me to buy?

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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    Wheres the option for it being playable now? Sure there are issues, I still enjoy the game in it's current state though, no game has kept me away from EB longer.

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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    People complain and moan about everything and anything, that's life.

    One person gave the game one star as they changed what they did with generals.

    In fact, the game now is currently less buggy and more options than RTW vanilla. Even after the patchs.
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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    ETW has bugs and problems just like every single TW game in recent memory. But are there any game-breaking bugs that make me want to ring up CA's office and shout "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!"?

    No. Not from what I have seen. The only huge glaring flaws the game currently as (imo) is the pathfinding on the campaign map (which leads the AI to be unable to execute naval landings) and the occasional lobotomy of the AI on the battlefield leading them to do some really stupid things. Obviously there are many minor tweaks needed here and there, scuffs of the paint job on an otherwise fine vehicle, but the two gnarled fenders and broken tail lights really need looked at, and they will be by all accounts.

    While the game isn't perfect and suffers from some major bugs, I wouldn't call it unplayable by any stretch of the imagination. Of course if you wanted to wait a week or two for the next patch before buying I couldn't fault you either.

    Me? I'm enjoying myself.
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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    When someone asks a reasonable question why do people try to snow him into buying a game that has a high probability of not even running on his PC? Maybe to make him suffer?

    I am referring to the THOUSANDS of posts on the developers website in the Technical Support forum from people that can't run the game, have constant CTD's, white screen of death, etc.

    My personal recommendation is not to buy this game in its current beta form. Wait for the patch that fixes both the gameplay and the technical issues. Empire wasn't playtested well and has more technical glitches than its previous titles.

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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    Because unhappy people are more vocal than happy people. Most of us who have little problems do not think of making a thread to praise CA. Just a little justification, though I agree that the game is rather unpolished.
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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnhughthom View Post
    Wheres the option for it being playable now?
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    Biased poll.
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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    What no Gah! option? Consider this a vote for Gah!

    I'm enjoying it warts an' all. I'm sorry for the folks who are having severe problems - I'm one of the lucky ones I guess - but we have no way of knowing how many people are able to play and enjoy it compared to those who are having game ending problems.

    Wait or buy it now, it's your time and money after all - I'm glad I got it on release, I've already had hours of fun. That said, I'm looking forward to patches too, this game is set to get even better.

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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    were is the option for halle berry?

    seriusly i think the game is stable now even though i have had CTD:s but it should be stable within 2weeks

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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    Mine work fine at max settings. But I guess I'm fairly lucky.
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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen View Post
    +1

    Biased poll.
    Poll is not about "playability". Poll is about "stability" and when game will be "worth paying for".

    No bias, just asking a fair question.

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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    It's fine enough now. The game is fairly stable and looking to get improved. No real point waiting months for something you want.

    Could always see it as play now, get the practise in and improve then come back to it later.
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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TiberiusBeskar View Post
    The game is fairly stable and looking to get improved.
    You have hit the nail right on the head.

    ETW is not "stable" yet, it's only "fairly stable". And there is definite room for improvement, with major issues related to saving games as well as the AI. Why should I pay for a game that hasn't been finished yet? The boards are full of threads started by people who played ETW for 30 or 40 turns only to find that their saved game files were corrupted due to a bug.

    Why should I pay money to be a beta tester?

    I would rather wait until CA have finished work on the game.

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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeenPlayingSinceRTW View Post
    Poll is not about "playability". Poll is about "stability" and when game will be "worth paying for".

    No bias, just asking a fair question.
    It isn't fair because the answer to "Is it stable enough?" and "Is it worth paying for?" is "HELL YES!!!"
    Last edited by Darth Venom; 03-24-2009 at 14:14.

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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    This seems to be exactly the kind of inflammatory thread we don't need; it was only ever going to divide opinion and not provide any possible objective answer.

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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Venom View Post
    It isn't fair because the answer to "Is it stable enough?" and "Is it worth paying for?" is "HELL YES!!!"
    Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion.

    But a quick look at the responses to the poll and to this thread shows that you are in the minority - most people do not feel ETW is stable yet. Take a look at Steam's ETW forums or the official Total War forums. Many, many, many people are having problems and are anxiously awaiting the next patch in the hope that it will fix their issues.

    It's a legitimate question to ask, and CA are not being forthcoming with the information, so it makes sense to ask here.

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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnhughthom View Post
    Wheres the option for it being playable now?
    This ^

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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeenPlayingSinceRTW View Post
    Clearly from the huge volume of complaints and reported bugs, ETW was released before it was ready. Right now, ETW has only two stars on Amazon.com ( http://www.amazon.com/Empire-Total-W...ews/B0018YXM3Y )

    So I'm glad I waited and decided not to buy initially.

    But when do you think the game will be okay for me to buy?
    Well, I have had the game for 4 days now and have probably around 24 hours of game-play 'behind me'. The game has not crashed one single time running on all ultra settings...

    So, the crashes are highly user system specific.

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    Default Re: So when do you think ETW will be stable and ready for me to buy?

    Here's an example of one problem players may experience. Today I was playing a GB campaign and I was in India taking on the Marathas. I deploy my troops and start the battle. Everything is going well at first until my horse artillery units (3 total) got a mind of their own. I had them on a hill behind and above my line infantry facing towards the enemy. They are limbered up because I had plans to move them somewhere else soon but hadnt decided where yet. My General and his body guard were a little bit behind the artillery. So there I was my infantry standing solid and holding the line as some Maratha soldiers were advancing. Battle is going well and next thing I know all three artillery units unlimber, do a 180 degree turn (about face) and shoot at my General's body guard. They killed my 5 star general and some of his guard!

    I'm like WTF!!! So I give a quick command to stop, turned off the auto fire, and gave the command to limber back up again. Nope, they then do a 180 degree turn and start shooting at the enemy which by now had closed with my linemen in melee. Both my troops and the enemy are getting blown up. Again I give them a stop firing command and try and get them to limber up. Finally they took the command and I moved them back farther away from the battle so they couldnt do any more harm. The rest of the battle went fine for me but I was pissed I lost my 5 star general. Luckily it wasnt my more experienced general.

    True story. I dont know what posessed the units to do that. I had moved them up onto the hill and just had them waiting there till I could decide what to do with them. I swear there's a gremlin in this game! I like playing ETW but there are times I want to break the retail discs and go find a CA developer to strangle!

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