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  • I could do either but prefer Kingdoms

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Thread: LotR Successor games, Kingdoms or no?

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    Default Re: LotR Successor games, Kingdoms or no?

    One master GM and for each faction a smaller GM :p

    A lot of PVP = true. Ppl not willing to play pvp battles should therefore stay away.
    pvp battles will have to be decided in multiplayer.

    IC can be solved in numerous ways.
    perhaps a general subform for 'world IC' where each faction can have an embassy among other things for example.

    You will have to IC both national and international :p


    But agreed on the amount of work. I was just spitting the idea :)

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    Default Re: LotR Successor games, Kingdoms or no?

    Quote Originally Posted by mini View Post
    One master GM and for each faction a smaller GM :p

    A lot of PVP = true. Ppl not willing to play pvp battles should therefore stay away.
    pvp battles will have to be decided in multiplayer.

    IC can be solved in numerous ways.
    perhaps a general subform for 'world IC' where each faction can have an embassy among other things for example.

    You will have to IC both national and international :p


    But agreed on the amount of work. I was just spitting the idea :)
    Oh, indeed, continue! All ideas are good so long as you take the time to refine them and think them out. An idea can only be bad if you simply act on it, without thinking

    Which is what this tread is all about, discussing the possibilities for the next game. Heck who knows, if we continue to refine your idea, then it could be possible to reduce the work load through rules or simplified implementation.

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    Default Re: LotR Successor games, Kingdoms or no?

    Well, I think the work aint so bad

    One big Subforum
    - World (with threads like faction X embassy, faction Y embassy etc, places where ppl can RP internationally, should be the main RP site. Maybe threads like: English stories, English battles and so on, for each faction. And the main OOC thread)
    - Faction X (official politics and a small ooc thread)
    - Faction y (official politics and a small ooc thread)
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    Each faction will ofcourse work differently in its political system.
    Which can be decided by the lower-GM of each faction.

    The big rules, which apply for the world can be set by a master GM.
    Most of these rules can be taken from previous PBM's.
    pvp however, will be in multiplayer. tabletops etc take to long.


    Workign with this kind of GM structure has it's advantages: the lower-GM's only have to worry about their own faction = less work

    The head GM only handles cases which have been brought to his attention by the lower GM's = less work.

    haven't got any further than that though.

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    Default Re: LotR Successor games, Kingdoms or no?

    Too many GM's, not enough players, thats the main issue, and a hard one to solve.

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    Default Re: LotR Successor games, Kingdoms or no?

    point taken :)

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    Default Re: LotR Successor games, Kingdoms or no?

    Its not only "not enough players" but by asking for only MP battles you're alienating a wide range of players (I think), plus MP really stinks. YLC and I couldn't even join each others' game in M2TW MP lobby...

    Also by broadening the scope like that, you change the essence of the game. Things become much less personal at such a scale and most likely everyone in a faction will more or less play nice with each other because of external threats.

    Anyways, the idea is not without merit but its widely ambitious and at the risk of presuming too much, I don't think that's what people are looking for in a successor for LotR.
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    Default Re: LotR Successor games, Kingdoms or no?

    wasn't implying this should be implemented, just got carried away :P

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    The main idea I was thinking of was, to add dimensions to the game.

    Shortly after I joined I found the pace extremely slow.
    I found player interaction to be near catatonic and couldn't work out what the houses did because there were so few messages.

    Basically politics is hard without some history. And every player and city being the same colour made it tough for me to work out what House asteri had let alone what my role was. Before my comp died I found myself waiting a month just to get to my post. No battles insight and people generally talking nonsense about minor rules and a dog as next emperor.
    Also the houses seem to have little co-ordination.

    This brought me on to the idea that using hot seat. We could fight the battles online like your having to do anyway. The politics are now internal and external. The houses are factions with their own money and hierarchy. They can work together like sister factions of a greater empire or against each other (this is what rtw had three roman factions for).

    The GM can check the house (faction) forums but the only members of that faction can otherwise view and post so that's the internal politics. Regions can be gifted, money exchanged and protectorates granted with a little imagination. Also player interaction can happen through a forum embassy and transactions made or withheld like in real life history by the ruling members.
    Yes PvP will happen but you guys were fighting a power battle when I arrived and not a lot seemed to happen apart from that for weeks. This way it can be fought or not and the consequences are real to the factions.

    It's just an idea but it is expandable and I think it may work.
    If I'm missing the point of Lotr please enlighten me as I was trying to get the gist before my comp failed but was only getting bits and pieces
    Either way I do look forward to seeing the next game.
    Last edited by Marcus Agrippa; 03-31-2009 at 17:45.

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