LotR Successor games, Kingdoms or no?

[mini]

last time I saw it in stores here, it was 3€.

And games are utterly expensive in this country :D
Well since Kingdoms brings some awesome mods with it, I'd pick it up if I didn't have it already.

[ULC]

Although I like some of the parts of DLV, I am not sold on it. There are some good parts, but there are some bad parts such as unit and building restriction that we shouldn't play with - such things should be decided by the ingame bickering of the players, not ingame scripts.

Also, I will try my to break the "Governer" and "General" system - I dislike how it can force people to play in a way they will dislike simply because of where they spawned on the first turn. It has good points, but I don't like the inability to not be able to choose. If we pick it, we need to pick where we start, and have some control over it.

I'll have to test it out when I can.

[mini]

i think we can choose what script to run and what not, no?

Maybe we can modify the scripts we want to use aswel?

[Cecil XIX]

Also, I will try my to break the "Governer" and "General" system - I dislike how it can force people to play in a way they will dislike simply because of where they spawned on the first turn. It has good points, but I don't like the inability to not be able to choose. If we pick it, we need to pick where we start, and have some control over it.

I'll have to test it out when I can.

This is indeed a point of contention, but I think we can come to a consensus that's agreeable. I should have pointed out that you choose career and education paths in Deus lo Vult by where your avatar is placed at the end of his turn. In such cases, I'm sure we'd use the console so that people are always able to make the choices they want. I mean, there's no IC reason an avatar has to come of age in any one place. It's easy to roleplay as the avatar being sent to get the education he needs/wants before reaching 16.

Also, I got my copy of Kingdoms new for $20.

[Marcus Agrippa]

Just a thought guys.
What about having a hot seat style campaign.
It could work with a few members taking the ruling places of a couple of factions. Which in turn means no compromising on the battles - they happen and not delete units after to simulate losts.
The politics and behind the scenes politics that happened throught europe could be played out. factions can war or ally in game and use the forum for terms and negotiating. It would also keep things simpler to keep track of as huoses are then dominant families of different factions.
Maybe there's something there.

[ULC]

Although a good thought MA, it's just not in the style of WotS/KotR, which is what I signed up for (and I feel so sad because I stood and watched KotR instead of jumping in , so will not happen again)

[Marcus Agrippa]

Fair enough. What does WotS and KotR stand for?

[TheFlax]

WotS = Will of the Senate and KotR = King of the Romans, those two games being the predecessors of LotR.

[mini]

Although a good thought MA, it's just not in the style of WotS/KotR, which is what I signed up for (and I feel so sad because I stood and watched KotR instead of jumping in , so will not happen again)

Well

You could combine it :)

A hotseat with a few playable factions, and in each playable factions we have a few players doing it Lotr-style :p

We create one big subforum, with smaller subforums for each faction.
Each faction will have a setup like Lotr.

[ULC]

Well

You could combine it :)

A hotseat with a few playable factions, and in each playable factions we have a few players doing it Lotr-style :p

We create one big subforum, with smaller subforums for each faction.
Each faction will have a setup like Lotr.

That borders on being a little to complex and too much work for one GM, IMO. Also, a major disadvantage of that kind of setup is a lack of IC interaction coupled with the inability to fight defensive battles (or to have way to much PvP).