Civilization vs Total War

[Durango]

Oldschool TW (STW/MTW) hands down for me.

+1

The formula of the early TW games is just right - strategic decisions without having to think like an accountant.

[gollum]

Originally posted by Durango
strategic decisions without having to think like an accountant.

Bingo, i still laugh to tears with those MTW reviewers that they were complaining it had no *information scrolls*

[Don Esteban]

The big problem with CIV 4 (and all other CIV titles) is how they often either lead to winning really early and steamrollering the oposition or, if you get to the Modern age seem to end in stalemate.

I love both TW and CIV but for me the winner is still MTW

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'm your classic micromanager (in Empire midgames I've been known to take an hour to play one turn) but even Civ is a bit too much. Usually I just end up setting my workers on auto and then cringing as I watch what they do.

[Don Esteban]

Usually I just end up setting my workers on auto and then cringing as I watch what they do.

NO!!!! never set your workers to Auto, it's the quick route to destroying your civilization!!

It is damn boring micromanaging them all though,, I must agree!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well yeah, hence my adding in the "cringing" bit.

[Aemilius Paulus]

I don't know you guys. I love micromanaging those workers. I love micro-ing anything. That is what I do. I spend 2-3 hours each turn in EB, and that is not counting the battles.

[Beefy187]

NO!!!! never set your workers to Auto, it's the quick route to destroying your civilization!!

It is damn boring micromanaging them all though,, I must agree!

I set them on build trade network which doesn't seem to harm me.

But thats only after I get Railroads. Until then I Micro Manage.

4 workers are enough for me unless I am forced to have more after capturing a few cities.

[Owen Glyndwr]

I set them on build trade network which doesn't seem to harm me.

But thats only after I get Railroads. Until then I Micro Manage.

4 workers are enough for me unless I am forced to have more after capturing a few cities.

Actually there's a guy at the Civfanatics forums named The Me In Team who autos everything. He autos workers and uses the governor feature. He plays Emperor level I believe. His argument is that in the early game micro workers, but as the game gets along he autos them, and as long as you use it with the governor feature (i.e. emphasize x), then they'll work terrain how you want it. Also he's one of the fastest players around, completing the average game in about 2 to 3 hours.


Also, Civ 4 and EB are about the same for me. It really depends on what I want to do and how I'm feeling. They're two of the only games I actually play nowadays, so there's plenty of room for both of them.

[seireikhaan]

I'm your classic micromanager (in Empire midgames I've been known to take an hour to play one turn) but even Civ is a bit too much. Usually I just end up setting my workers on auto and then cringing as I watch what they do.

Not for me. For me, the comparison depends on what games we're talking about. MTW and Civ IV are very, very close for me, probably a tie. Civ IV easily beats RTW and M2, as I no longer found the battles to be any fun. My views on Empire are still rather incomplete.

And btw, I AM an accounting student for a reason... I want control over every single worker in Civ...

[gollum]

Some cannot stand anyone being unacccounted for...

[seireikhaan]

Some cannot stand anyone being unacccounted for...

Darn right! I'm just glad that Civ IV is a bit more macro than Civ III. Those old civ III: complete games took forever...

[Aemilius Paulus]

Not for me. For me, the comparison depends on what games we're talking about. MTW and Civ IV are very, very close for me, probably a tie. Civ IV easily beats RTW and M2, as I no longer found the battles to be any fun. My views on Empire are still rather incomplete.

What about EB? Have you tried it? You should, it is obviously free, so you have nothing to lose but your chains...ermh, sorry, that was my inner Lenin speaking in me. What I mean to say was that you have nothing but a bit of your time to lose to try out EB.

[gollum]

Yeah, EB fans qualify as communists in mentality at least...

[seireikhaan]

What about EB? Have you tried it? You should, it is obviously free, so you have nothing to lose but your chains...ermh, sorry, that was my inner Lenin speaking in me. What I mean to say was that you have nothing but a bit of your time to lose to try out EB.

Yes, I did give it a brief stint. However, it came back to the same thing- I simply couldn't lose battles, period. Plus, the AI is still so nonsensical on the strategic level its baffling. This is not the fault of the EB team at all- I commend them for doing so much with so little and having such commitment to a project of which they do not charge money. Fact is, the core of Rome was totally rotten for me- just not enough to work with to make a game I could enjoy.

[White_eyes:D]

I AM an accounting student for a reason...

Funny....I am too and Civilization 2...back in the day...I think it was 1998? or was it 1999? was my favorite game....problem because back then, I had never played such a complex game....Now days..(Civilization 4) after finishing said accounting courses...I feel something is wrong if there is no money-crunching

Overall, I love both games about the same....Total war series, is more battles with nice grapichics...Civilization games are more about tech races and LONG-term managing.....(I think I had one game on there, toke me about....one year to finish.... yeah...should have set that map to a large land mass...rather then a whole bunch of Islands....takes a lot longer to win if you let the Island Nations build up on World Domination...)

[Aemilius Paulus]

Hmmm, so no one cares about Mount and Blade, huh? Well, from what I observed, great amounts of people here play EU-type games (Europa Universalis, no the other EU, for all you smartasses). How about comparing EU and TW?