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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolg View Post
    He's talking about the bodyguards, not about the ethnicity trait.


    The decendants of your spartan FMs will have the Spatiates ethnicity, yet they won't have Spartiates Hoplitai as their BGs.
    i will have to march him to battle to see

    damn, i had not noticed before

    I suppose the very good stamina to good stamina will not be such a dreadful difference
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    But theoretically wouldn't a spartan prefer to have his own kin as bodyguard, rather than some greeks from who knows where? They were the most close minded, war centered greeks, it only makes sense to give spartans a spartan guard, look at the elite spartans who followed leonidas at thermopilae(sp?), they were the royal guard IIRC. Anyway is it even possible that generals with different ethnicities get different bodyguards? For example the Nervi would get the belgae heavy cavalry and the galatians galatian heavy cavalry, just an idea.
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    You know how historically accurate EB is. The fact that they made the Spartiates have Spartan bodyguards in the first place shows that. I can assure you, it is not possible for the second-generation Spartans to have them.
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    Default AW: Re: KH late bodyguard

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    Anyway is it even possible that generals with different ethnicities get different bodyguards? For example the Nervi would get the belgae heavy cavalry and the galatians galatian heavy cavalry, just an idea.
    I don't think so. It's hard coded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    But theoretically wouldn't a spartan prefer to have his own kin as bodyguard, rather than some greeks from who knows where?
    But Epilektoi aren't recruited from random places: the represent the elite warriors of a polis. Athenian generals will have Athenian Epilektoi, Corinthian will haves Corinthians, and so on. Spartan hoplites are actually a regional variant of the Epilektoi.

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    Default Re: KH late bodyguard

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    I said only those with spartiates as ethnicity would get the spartan BG. Did u even read my entire post? And anyway as i already said i doubt a spartan would like to have a greek from who knows where as a BG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens View Post
    But Epilektoi aren't recruited from random places: the[y] represent the elite warriors of a polis. Athenian generals will have Athenian Epilektoi, Corinthian will haves Corinthians, and so on. Spartan hoplites are actually a regional variant of the Epilektoi.

    Varying bodyguard type based on traits is not possible in the R:TW engine.
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    Your right med sorry 'bout that i forgot to edit that post since it was written hastefuly and i hadn't finished reading all the posts.


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    Default Re: KH late bodyguard

    Has anyone toyed around with making a late sort of elite Thorakitai(Not those meh Iphikratidous Hoplitai elites) for the KH since warfare was headed in that direction?
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    I may be mistaken since it is a while since I played a KH campaign but I thought that greek generals got spartan bodyguards if they underwent the agoge, I will test this when i get home this arvo.

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    Default Re: KH late bodyguard

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    But theoretically wouldn't a spartan prefer to have his own kin as bodyguard, rather than some greeks from who knows where? They were the most close minded, war centered greeks, it only makes sense to give spartans a spartan guard, look at the elite spartans who followed leonidas at thermopilae(sp?), they were the royal guard IIRC. Anyway is it even possible that generals with different ethnicities get different bodyguards? For example the Nervi would get the belgae heavy cavalry and the galatians galatian heavy cavalry, just an idea.
    Its either:

    All KH generals have Spartans

    Or

    All KH generals have the Somatophylakes Strategou (from eb site) and starting Spartans get Spartan guards.

    Theres no halfway here, remember the KH represent a unified Greek City state, YOU AREN'T JUST SPARTE.


    You could just roleplay that as the KH formed itself into a Unified Greek nation they formed a new elite bodyguard consisting of the best warriors of every city, the Unified guard unit representing a new bond of trust between all Free Greek Polis'
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    Default Re: KH late bodyguard

    Quote Originally Posted by ezekiel2517 View Post
    i will have to march him to battle to see
    You don't need to go into battle, just march him out of a city and open up his merc recruitment menu, theres a little button that lets you see his bodyguard unit card.


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