How much is enough to buy territory?

**Graphic** · 03-25-2009, 08:09

I'm playing RtI4. At the beginning the adviser suggests buying land from Spain and France. Cool, I agree, better not to make war with your few friends. I tried to buy Florida before the Cherokee inevitably take it and my offer of 18,000 was rejected.

Hmm, Okay...

But now I wiped out the Iroquios and the Cherokee. All that's left on the eastern half of the mainland is France and England. I go to buy lower Louisiana for 38,000 and it's rejected outright.

Has anyone EVER managed to buy territory from other nations?

**Merak** · 03-25-2009, 08:18

i have a feeling that you could buy it with technology have not tryed it but as they offer you technology for a territory maybe they will agree also.

but it might depend on how "important" they think the territory is for example buy france from france is less likly to succed then buying a poor province not developed in america.

but those figures seems strange that they would not agree on

hope i make any sense

**Darth Venom** · 03-25-2009, 08:40

The price of provinces depends on quite a few factors. From what I've seen and read elsewhere the main ones seem to be the wealth of the province in question (mouseover in the provinces diplomacy) and if it is a mission province for the controlling faction (check victory conditions in the "start new GC" menu).
I assume that with all diplomacy your standing with them, your wealth, their wealth, your strength/prestige, their strength/prestige are factors as well. Strategic value doesn't seem to be a factor though, I've had offers from Prussia for a Crimean/Poland trade (me being the Ottomans).
But since the number of diplomatic inquieries per turn is endless, its just a matter of trial and error. Well, if your money is endless as well... throwing in some high level tech does help though.

**Ishmael** · 03-25-2009, 09:34

ive found that 150000-250000 + a tech or 2 gets most places in the GC-not sure about RTI though

**Fisherking** · 03-25-2009, 10:58

Originally Posted by Ishmael

ive found that 150000-250000 + a tech or 2 gets most places in the GC-not sure about RTI though

That is ridiculous! Who ever has that much?

The AI offers to swap swamp land for good provinces and hardly ever offers a tech.

It is also odd that over time their offers seem to decline in value as you improve the province.

**Darth Venom** · 03-25-2009, 11:34

Originally Posted by Fisherking

That is ridiculous! Who ever has that much?

Me at every of my dozen or so games (some h, some vh) so far from about 1760 onwards.

Originally Posted by Fisherking

It is also odd that over time their offers seem to decline in value as you improve the province.

Well, if you keep the upper class taxes up, the province wealth/value will decline.

**Ishmael** · 03-25-2009, 13:03

Originally Posted by Fisherking

That is ridiculous! Who ever has that much?

Ah, the joys of India.
Seriously though, ive never (on medium) been able to get a province for less than 100k, and that was a measly little carribean island somewhere that only barely scraped a profit (i was bored).

**Ordani** · 03-25-2009, 20:33

Originally Posted by Fisherking

That is ridiculous! Who ever has that much?

The British, United Provinces, Maratha, and Spain sleep on beds made of money warmed by money burning fireplaces stoked by dancing midget circus performers dressed in money.