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    FoxNews, once again trying to be as outrageous as possible, recently mocked the Canadian army.

    Mind you, I'm not really a fan of any kind of army. I think the military shouldn't be protected from critics.
    Things is, what we have here is a bunch of morons, making fun of the military of their closest ally and almost only remaining friend, perfectly knowing that they would cause outrage in Canada, where the army is highly respected, even by liberal/leftist people.

    The fact that they do so while almost 120 canadians gave their life during the US war on terror only make them look even more foolish and stupid than they are.

    Not only that, but GregGutfeld, the author of many of the stupidest comments, apparently* went as far as updating his Twitter account with a new status:
    "My apologies to the Canadian military, they probably could at least beat the Belgians"

    Now, I don't really care about the source of the outrage itself. What really boggles my mind here, is "Wth is FoxNews trying to do?".

    Are there really people watching that kind of crap? I understand that Americans are historically attached to the idea of free speech, but I mean, can't anything be done?

    Not that I care too much about it, but FoxNews is not only making you guys look like fools to the rest of the world, it's also alienating the last few countries and states that still had some respect for you.
    And it makes Nazi or soviet best propagandists look like 15 years old amateurs. A TV channel that bases all of its shows upon lies/misinformation/outrageous claim/completely biaised crap** should be dealt with in some way.


    *I am not sure this is his real Twitter account, and since I couldn't find anything source confirming or denying it, I'll take it with a pince of salt.
    **Now, I know, I know, other channels are also biased. There's probably not any unbiaised channel, and will never be. Thing is, there's a difference between being slightly biaised (I think most american conservatives will describe CNN as liberal-bias, while I think it's conservative) and being FoxNews-like biaised.

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    I hope that the Fox "air-brushed plastoid" crew was simply joking regarding the SIZE of the Canadian military. Neither historical nor current evidence could say much against their QUALITY.

    We tried to take Canada three times -- got beat every try.

    Canadian troops did as well or better than any other Empire troops in both World Wars and contributed their share or more of heros.

    They fought in Korea and the WoT alongside us.

    I DEARLY hope the reference was only to the comparative scarcity OF their numbers and not a slur on the men and women of Canada's armed forces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    I hope that the Fox "air-brushed plastoid" crew was simply joking regarding the SIZE of the Canadian military. Neither historical nor current evidence could say much against their QUALITY.

    We tried to take Canada three times -- got beat every try.

    Canadian troops did as well or better than any other Empire troops in both World Wars and contributed their share or more of heros.

    They fought in Korea and the WoT alongside us.

    I DEARLY hope the reference was only to the comparative scarcity OF their numbers and not a slur on the men and women of Canada's armed forces.
    On that note, some of the best airmen in WWII were Canadian. Also, don't forget the enormous debt we owe them for their contributions to the arts.
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    Meneldil, Watching Fox News is like watching "South Park". Don't take it too seriosly, you know.

    Vuk,
    First of all, a war with Russia is not some far out thing. If you have ever been there you will find one thing out: most everyone is anticipating a war with the US...not just anticipating it, praying for the day it comes.
    I have been there, have seen no trace what so ever of what you are talking about though. What part of Russia were you at? That comment seemed more taken from some 60's cartoon than real life.

    Not wanting to delve too much into that, but esp with the problems going on in Korea (do not forget that we are still in the Korean War)
    So now you are at war with Korea too, huh?

    the Obama administrations disaterous handling of foriegn policy, such a war (WWIII) may not be too far away.
    If you were a Medieval Total War priest you would probably have the subtitle "Warmonger".

    Canada, like the rest of Europe relies on the States for complete security
    We have had many more terrorist attacks post Afghan/Iraq war, thankyouverymuch... Explain again how you keep us "safe".

    (yet ridicules us when we provide it).
    That is not the reason why we ridicule you... Try again :)

    One country cannot keep hundreds of others safe.
    So why don't you stop trying? No one asked you, we can handle our own load thankyouverymuch (again).

    The US is providing it with security, so they do not need to worry about attacks from our end, the least they could do is return the favor and provide us with security from their end.
    A) If there would be an attack on Canada, the US would probably be the one who caust it (I dont eman the US would do the attack, I mean the US would be the reason Canada was attacked).

    B) If someone would attack Canada I am sure they would do their outmost to defend themselves, contrary to what Fox news wants to believe. Ask a canadian.

    About the news people making our allies hate us, I do not think it is possible to make them hate us more.
    Hate is a way to strong word... We are ashamed of you, we pity you, we wonder what you are doing and why. But very few of your allies hate you.

    I do not think they or the Europeans appriciate the security and prosperity the US gives them.
    WOW, I can agree with this! Ask London and Madrid why they don't appreciate the security given by the US.



    Maybe you should consider getting sources from something more neutral than Fox news?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    We have had many more terrorist attacks post Afghan/Iraq war, thankyouverymuch... Explain again how you keep us "safe".
    lol, so there hadn't been a rise in militant islamic ideology directed against the west since the late eighties after all, and tens of thousands of otherwise normal islamists didn't decide to go for terrorist training in the decade preceding 911...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    lol, so there hadn't been a rise in militant islamic ideology directed against the US and countries foolish enough to support cause of claims of weapons of mass destruction since the late eighties after all, and tens of thousands of otherwise normal islamists didn't decide to go for terrorist training in the decade preceding 911...........
    Corrected it for you.

    Yeah, Europe is so much more safe now we have soldiers who dies in Afghanistan and Iraq wondering what [insert] we are doing there.

    Back on topic, when the news channel claiming to be no. 1 in the states starts bashing the very same troops who dies cause of your [ill planned war(s)]...

    Go figure.

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    I think the guys are disrespectfull ******* who should show a little more respect for the people risking and giving their lives to save their fat lazy behinds, but I do think they made several good points (albeit in a rude, disrespectful and offensive manner). First of all, a war with Russia is not some far out thing. If you have ever been there you will find one thing out: most everyone is anticipating a war with the US...not just anticipating it, praying for the day it comes. Not wanting to delve too much into that, but esp with the problems going on in Korea (do not forget that we are still in the Korean War), and the Obama administrations disaterous handling of foriegn policy, such a war (WWIII) may not be too far away. Canada, like the rest of Europe relies on the States for complete security (yet ridicules us when we provide it). It is their duty to themselves, and to their allies to carry their own weight. Canada is in a position where it may end up on the frontlines of battle IF there ever is a war with Russia. If Canada is taken, then the invaders will have a foothold to strike the States from. One country cannot keep hundreds of others safe. Canada needs to get its butt into shape and accept some darned responsibility. The US is providing it with security, so they do not need to worry about attacks from our end, the least they could do is return the favor and provide us with security from their end.
    About the news people making our allies hate us, I do not think it is possible to make them hate us more. I do not think they or the Europeans appriciate the security and prosperity the US gives them. (I do not think it is right for them to talk about the Canadians like that, simply do not think the Canadians could hate us more no matter what they said)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk View Post
    I think the guys are disrespectfull ******* who should show a little more respect for the people risking and giving their lives to save their fat lazy behinds, but I do think they made several good points (albeit in a rude, disrespectful and offensive manner). First of all, a war with Russia is not some far out thing. If you have ever been there you will find one thing out: most everyone is anticipating a war with the US...not just anticipating it, praying for the day it comes. Not wanting to delve too much into that, but esp with the problems going on in Korea (do not forget that we are still in the Korean War), and the Obama administrations disaterous handling of foriegn policy, such a war (WWIII) may not be too far away. Canada, like the rest of Europe relies on the States for complete security (yet ridicules us when we provide it). It is their duty to themselves, and to their allies to carry their own weight. Canada is in a position where it may end up on the frontlines of battle IF there ever is a war with Russia. If Canada is taken, then the invaders will have a foothold to strike the States from. One country cannot keep hundreds of others safe. Canada needs to get its butt into shape and accept some darned responsibility. The US is providing it with security, so they do not need to worry about attacks from our end, the least they could do is return the favor and provide us with security from their end.
    About the news people making our allies hate us, I do not think it is possible to make them hate us more. I do not think they or the Europeans appriciate the security and prosperity the US gives them. (I do not think it is right for them to talk about the Canadians like that, simply do not think the Canadians could hate us more no matter what they said)
    Oh come on, Russia's not going to invade soon and even if they do they don't have the navy to keep there supply lines open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Winter View Post
    Oh come on, Russia's not going to invade soon and even if they do they don't have the navy to keep there supply lines open.
    Putin is cementing his power now. He is an ex-KGB radical, a former spy. Go to Russia Lord Winter, meet Russians. They think the US is evil, and they really do want a war with us. Don't forget that many members of the Russian government are former soviet officials, and some former KGB. I am not saying Russia would go and attack us outright, but they do not have to. It only takes one event to start a chain reaction like what happened in the two WWs. That event is gonna be in Korea I fear. Don't be naive, as much as we would like to change it, we live in a bi-polar world. Wanting it to not be that way does not make it that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk View Post
    Canada needs to get its butt into shape and accept some darned responsibility. The US is providing it with security, so they do not need to worry about attacks from our end, the least they could do is return the favor and provide us with security from their end.
    lolwut?

    Canada is the country with the longest coastline in the world, and one of the lowest population density. And while it's a fairly rich state, it doesn't have the resources and manpower to provide security to itself, nor to anyone else. If the US think a war with the USSR/China/Russia/NKorea/whoever the hell they can pull off their hat is inevitable, that's all fine and dandy. But they shouldn't expect other countries to build hundreds of nukes because some psycho in Washington decided that war is coming.

    As for the WWIII war stuff, it's so far-off, I won't even comment. Calling Obama's foreign policy disastrous after Bush is fun though. I'm puzzled by the Obamania going on around the world and especially in Europe, but it seriously gave a huge boost to the US prestige, and country really needed one. Even if he screws up as badly as Bush did (which would be quite an achievement, given that Bush basically said 'screw you' to all of his former allies, before saying 'screw you' to his former enemies), he will at least have shown the world that the US ain't that bad as they've elected a metis as head of state.

    Now, the topic isn't the Canadian army or the incoming war with russia ( ), but the effect of channels such as FoxNews. I think they're severely damaging democracy, and make the US look just as bad as the people they're trying to fight.

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    In contrast to that "piece" on FoxNews, I give you this: Canada's Highway of Heroes. I hadn't heard of this until yesterday when my dad sent me a very moving slideshow of images from all along this route. One day later, I'm confronted by this obnoxious segment from FoxNews. I'm rather ticked off at the moment.
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    Bah just watched the vid and their style remind me a certain Don Cherry, who is a national "celebrity" here in Canada. You really can't take those peoples seriously.

    Canadians need no glory in war, all we need is to get the job done.
    We defeated some of the toughest German division in Normandy ( 1st SS Division, the 12th SS Division and the Panzer Lehr Division) . When Ike realized that the makeshift ports of Normandy would not last who did he call to secure the Scheldt and Antwerp? The Canadian. (ok the Polish helped and the Brits held the flank).

    In WW1 we were a decisive factor in the victory of The Battle of the Somme were we acquired the reputation of elite shock troop. "Whenever the Germans found the Canadian Corps coming into the line they prepared for the worst." ---David Lloyd George, British Prime Minister

    Burn the White-House in August 1814 (ok, the Brits helped out)

    And i think that taking a break from wars to straiten up our economy would be a good idea. To stay at war for too long is never a good thing for the economy. Afghanistan is no threat to NATO in their current shape and since no one want to cross the border into Pakistan to pursue the "bad guys" it is kind of a pointless war if you don't seek and destroy said enemies. We have to keep strong else we might fall prey to a nation who is not war exhausted.

    In the end concerning the video i would like to site a well known Frenchmen, Voltaire: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

    So if i acknowledge them the right to say what they said it mean i have to right to qualify them as retarded peoples who have a moronic and dubious sense of humor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk View Post
    Canada needs to get its butt into shape and accept some darned responsibility. The US is providing it with security, so they do not need to worry about attacks from our end, the least they could do is return the favor and provide us with security from their end.
    What are you talking about? Any Russian army trying to pass through Canada to the US has to cross over 1000 miles of mostly undeveloped and frozen land. You couldn't ask for better security from that end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil View Post
    a bunch of morons
    I think that sums it up.

    And Vuk, you can't really believe russia is going to invade the US.
    I might even sign up to fall into their backs and secure all that oil, man that would be fun.*

    *Not really, but they could never win this without destroying the whole planet.


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