I'm hating ETW multi-player...

**Eusebius86** · 03-25-2009, 22:27

Alright, I decided to put my ETW grand campaign on hold due to CTD's and try out the mp aspect of the game. I am absolutely hating it. I'll list my main reasons why, and see what the rest of you people on the forum think.

- Lag: Is it just me, or does ETW/steam lag more than other games? It's a real game killer for me.

- Stupid people: It doesn't matter if it's naval battles or land battles, people just do not understand how to play as a team. Either they rush forward and get annihilated, or they sit back all day while you get crushed, and they do nothing. Plus, I'll host games specifically saying "2 arty limit no mortars" and people still ignore me, very frustrating.

- Cheaters: people who play ranked games only to quit minutes before being beaten, so that you don't get any points.

- Finding people to play with: it's a lot harder to find a good game. I used to play Company of Heroes, and it was really easy to find a good game based on ping, difficulty, experience, etc. ETW MP has very few filter options; either the game is open or it's not.

I also used to play World in Conflict a lot online. I found it to be very enjoyable, a lot of people knew what they were doing, and there was a heavy emphasis on team work. ETW MP just doesn't have that feel at all. Maybe I'm just asking too much. What do you guys think? I'm tempted to just play ETW single player grand campaigns, and pick up World in Conflict again for some fun multi-player action...

Maybe I should only play with members of CoH and ETW multiplayer steam groups?

**gollum** · 03-25-2009, 22:51

Hello Eusebius86,
is this the first time you play TW mp?

**Eusebius86** · 03-25-2009, 23:10

Originally Posted by gollum

Hello Eusebius86,
is this the first time you play TW mp?

Yes. I've played TW since RTW was released, but never mp. I have played many multiplayer games on World in Conflict and Company of Heroes though.

**gollum** · 03-25-2009, 23:14

I see - then there are several... harsh realities of the scene that you have to put up with unfortunately. However there are joys too - and i would say that in the end they outweight the bad stuff. How about you pm the Assistant Moderator and leader of the org mp group Tomisama and ask him with what bunch of guys its best for you to play as a new player?

Try to stick with people that are friendly and knowledgeable about the game and little by little improve your skills. It needs patience but it can be done.

Good Luck

**Eusebius86** · 03-25-2009, 23:16

Originally Posted by gollum

I see - then there are several... harsh realities of the scene that you have to put up with unfortunately. However there are joys too - and in i would say that in the end they outweight the bad stuff. How about you pm the Assistant Moderator and leader of the org mp group Tomisama and ask him with what bunch of guys its best for you to play as a new player?

Try to stick with people that are friendly and knowledgeable about the game and little by little improve your skills. It needs patience but it can be done.

Good Luck

Tomisama, ok. Thanks Gollum. ETW mp would be much more enjoyable if I could find some people who knew what they were doing and didn't cheat...

**gollum** · 03-25-2009, 23:23

They do exist - hold on...

**Evil_Maniac From Mars** · 03-25-2009, 22:55

Originally Posted by Eusebius86

- Cheaters: people who play ranked games only to quit minutes before being beaten, so that you don't get any points.

This one sucks - it really, really sucks. I have also gotten almost no CTDs or quits to lobby in the single player campaign, but it happens too often in multiplayer - which doesn't only give me no points, but often assigns me a loss when I am winning. Only one of my ranked losses so far is deserved, and that is very frustrating.

**risker** · 03-28-2009, 11:01

comparing world in conflict mp to TW mp is just not right. world in conflict was a masterpeice in terms of multiplayer. it was so easy to join a clan, to be ranked, to work as a team. this is a game where working as a team doesnt work as you dont have any of those quick buttons to alert people and chatting takes a millenium in TW games compared to WiC. Although you have a point, dont expect CA to get it as good as WiC...sorry.

**Eusebius86** · 03-28-2009, 14:55

Originally Posted by risker

comparing world in conflict mp to TW mp is just not right. world in conflict was a masterpeice in terms of multiplayer. it was so easy to join a clan, to be ranked, to work as a team. this is a game where working as a team doesnt work as you dont have any of those quick buttons to alert people and chatting takes a millenium in TW games compared to WiC. Although you have a point, dont expect CA to get it as good as WiC...sorry.

My problem is, is that 80% of my online multi-player experience has been formed by world in conflict, the other 20% by Company of Heroes. It's like taking 10 steps backwards.

O well, I mean, even Napoleon experienced frustration with "teammates" not doing what they were ordered/requested to do. Can't have the whole world....

**gollum** · 03-28-2009, 15:01

Welcome to the org, Lethaface.

Its nice to see that ETW attracts new players - dont forget to post in the *I am loving ETW* thread

**Eusebius86** · 04-02-2009, 19:29

Well, I have given MP two weeks, and made many friends from the .org site and through Steam. It's been good, but vanilla ETW is really bugging me, so I think I'm going to be sticking with the mod "Imperial Splendour" from twcenter for a while till CA reworks some things like op'd rifles, artillery accuracy and range, ship rotation, etc.

I might poke my head around MP every now and then, but I plan on being immersed in this sweet mod for while.

**mini** · 04-03-2009, 08:55

mp has upsides and downsides.
I wish there was an inbuild VOIP, the messages u can type ingame are rather short.

LAAAGGGGGG... which is what bugs me the most.