Is this true?

[Prussian to the Iron]

i too am curious about eb 2s death. it was really anticipated, but now it is taking super long. and the models i have seen are not very good, i actually prefered the older ones with uniform shields.

[Zaknafien]

good thing we're not making EBII for you then. EB I took several years.

[Prussian to the Iron]

yah but im getting E:TW in a week at most. if i get it then i know i will not go back to m2, even for EB2. there is still almost no information on anything released yet. the team needs to pick up the pace.

[Zaknafien]

hm, again, we don't work for you :)

secondly, I have E:TW and have quit playing it already. It was cool for a couple weeks, but thats about it. Different tastes for different people. If youre looking for flashy units and bright shiny colors, EB assuredly isnt for you. We primarily make this game for ourselves, and those in the community who share our love for history.

[Prussian to the Iron]

hm, again, we don't work for you :)

secondly, I have E:TW and have quit playing it already. It was cool for a couple weeks, but thats about it. Different tastes for different people. If youre looking for flashy units and bright shiny colors, EB assuredly isnt for you. We primarily make this game for ourselves, and those in the community who share our love for history.

ONCE AGAIN i didnt say ou did! anyway, its obvious it is going extremely slow, too slow for most of the people that like it which is why it is dying.

[Meneldil]

While I don't think the mod is dying or anything else (there weren't much people bothering about EB during the early dvlpt stages, ie. before RTW was even released), I can see how the fact ETW has been released might not help keeping the forum actives.

Furthermore, the modding community, once active on the Org, kind of disappeared/moved to TWC. EB is, AFAIK, the last big mod still primarly housed by this forum (and I'm glad it is, as TWC has turned into a spam fest for 13 year old people).

[gollum]

Once the mod start having versions out the forum will be populated and active. Hopefully the hoolabaloo from ETW will have calmed down too by then.

[/Bean\]

ONCE AGAIN i didnt say ou did! anyway, its obvious it is going extremely slow, too slow for most of the people that like it which is why it is dying.

Have you thought of helping them? It would go faster...

I think you mistake posting in the public forums for being active on the team. Your statement is utter nonsense and I can't imagine why you think you know anything about what goes on inside the EB2 team. We've got four active Romani guys alone, all of whom worked on EB1.

Oh, and Atilius, I'm not being serious. It's called British understatement. Of course I know theres more than 5 on the team. What I meant was they are undermanned, as all mods are, which of course makes progress slow. I didn't mean to offend you in any way .

[Tellos Athenaios]

ONCE AGAIN i didnt say ou did! anyway, its obvious it is going extremely slow, too slow for most of the people that like it which is why it is dying.

We have a different idea of 'dying' here. For the developpers the mod does not live by the grace of the interest of people outside the team; it is encouraging and motivating sure but it is not required in order to make the mod live. What you mean is that the interest of other people is dying. Perhaps it is, but personally I haven't noticed much? (I've seen EB in its 0.74 stage, and back then the forums were a good bit more quiet about EB 1 over here than they are now about EB 2.)

[/Bean\]

I'd say support grows everyday, with more people signing up to EB and the forums all the time, experiencing the mod, and then finding out about EB II. I mean, the EB II forums are more active than most of the other mod forums out there, and EB II isn't even out yet...doesn't that tell you something?

[Rilder]

ONCE AGAIN i didnt say ou did! anyway, its obvious it is going extremely slow, too slow for most of the people that like it which is why it is dying.

Except its not dieing, I bet no doubt that once EB2 Nears open beta release these forums will rocket into the most active forums ever.

You can't make global judgments just because your impatient.

Also.

yah but im getting E:TW in a week at most. if i get it then i know i will not go back to m2,

So if a sequel comes out you buy it and throw away the older game?

Bloody hell thats stupid, I still play the Original MTW from time to time, its good fun.

Depending on performance (yay my 2ghz processor) I'l probably still play EB1 when EB2 comes out.

Also if it wasn't against the rules I'd request your copy of M2:TW Kingdoms, since yours is just going in the trash -_-.

[Prussian to the Iron]

So if a sequel comes out you buy it and throw away the older game?

Bloody hell thats stupid, I still play the Original MTW from time to time, its good fun.

Depending on performance (yay my 2ghz processor) I'l probably still play EB1 when EB2 comes out.

Also if it wasn't against the rules I'd request your copy of M2:TW Kingdoms, since yours is just going in the trash -_-.

no. you misunderstood. i mean i will not want to play m2 because u will be too busy playing E:TW. I'll sell you it, how much will you buy it for?

i never throw games away. ever. i still have the ps1 version of pong, planning to sell a shit load of ps1 and ps2 games next week

[delablake]

ONCE AGAIN i didnt say ou did! anyway, its obvious it is going extremely slow, too slow for most of the people that like it which is why it is dying.

how old are you? 12? 13? - Your nick seems to give away your degree of maturity.
Understand: for certain people waiting a year or two or even longer for something really good is natural, it's called patience and pleasant anticipation.
And of course it's the opposite of that stupid concept:
"I want everything immediatly and get bored of it two days later, then start all over again".
I for one know what's better for me (and maybe could be for the rest of this haste-raped planet)
My advice: hit the books!

[eddy_purpus]

hm, again, we don't work for you :)

secondly, I have E:TW and have quit playing it already. It was cool for a couple weeks, but thats about it. Different tastes for different people. If youre looking for flashy units and bright shiny colors, EB assuredly isnt for you. We primarily make this game for ourselves, and those in the community who share our love for history.

I love you too ... I love you too

John..
ONCE AGAIN i didnt say ou did! anyway, its obvious it is going extremely slow, too slow for most of the people that like it which is why it is dying.

How do you know it is going really slow?
because of the lack of updates?
that is not true...
they just do it to keep some mods alive "wink " wink"
And to punish us for playing EB1 sooo much
xDhahahaha

[Tolg]

i too am curious about eb 2s death. it was really anticipated, but now it is taking super long. and the models i have seen are not very good, i actually prefered the older ones with uniform shields.

I prefer the older ones as well.

Not because they look better than the new ones, but because the EB II ones look so human, I don't think I'll be able to kill them. T.T

[Aulus Caecina Severus]

be strong EB modders!
every masterpiece wants its time!
You just think to do the best you can, but do it with pleasure not duty ...
Feel free to use your time without constraints.
I am with you and thank you for your effort.
good luck boys

[desert]

Hey Aulus, how many grams of salt and how many liters of water should be used in the first step?

[Aulus Caecina Severus]

Hey Aulus, how many grams of salt and how many liters of water should be used in the first step?

depends on your preferences...
I put two tablespoons of salt in about 2 and a half liters of water = 2 servings
But each must make attempts to obtain as are its tastes. even cooking can be more or less long depending on whether you prefer the dough soft and slightly tough.
I always feel out of the pasta during cooking to monitor if fits.
ah and a nice meal

[Macilrille]

Women love me anyway, at least enough do that I can tell myself that all do ;-)

Anyway, on this topic...

If the EB team cared about support from a mass of fans, they would probably have made something like the original RTW, but with even more fantasy units and easier gameplay. However, as you will have noticed, they did not. They set out with little prospect of success and acclaim to make RTW more historically accurate, without much consideration about reception, but because they thought it was the right thing to do and wanted a more historical game.

They succeeded and as it happened enough people appreciated the result of their labour that EB is probably the most popular mod there is, as I understand it. That is in fact what makes a game or mod succesful that it is a labour of love and belief. So we have an almost H.C. Andersen-like fairytale about the poor modders setting out against hope and winning the Modding Crown...

I suspect EBII is just about the same and that the EB Team continues to care little for general acclaim and appeal as long as they are themselves satisfied and possibly influenced by the opinion of a few history nerds, but definately totally impervious to the opinion of the general public. EBII takes the time it takes.


However, the complaints that EBII is taking too long is of course because we love EB and are so anticipant, tense with expectation, so am I, but I will wait for the complete product and not declare it dead.

Hell, I have waited 13 years for Computer World in Flames, and I will still buy that...

PS. If the EB-Team needs the help of a moderately competent historian with some little knowledge of Rome and Denmark/Germania, poke me.