I have big problems; please help me.

[Prussian to the Iron]

help me find a reason not to commit suicide. and dont say family or friends because i have no friends and my family is the reason i want to commit suicide. i think ill do it tomorrow

[Thermal]

GOD NO!

Are you serious?

[Prussian to the Iron]

yes. i am dead serious. dont laugh at that please.

[CountArach]

What would suicide gain you? That is the reason - there is nothing in it for anyone.

[Prussian to the Iron]

its an easy escape to a horrible life

[lenin96]

I wouldn't do it, as CountArach said there's nothing to gain from it. If you think life is bad it's better than none at all.

[Prince Cobra]

Why do you want to commit suicide? Personally, I do not think it will be more pleasant than the life. I am not very religious but... this is a suicide after all. You know, you never know what follows after death... Just think on the process of rotting!

How old are you?

Why do you think you can not make any friends in the future?

What happened with your family? Divorce? Has somebody died?

[Rhyfelwyr]

Don't do it!

Never mind your family. If the idea is to make them feel guilty, and make them think "gee, I should have gave John-117 more attention" or something, then it won't work - they would have to be 's to let you get like that in the first place, they won't feel much guilt. On the other hand, they may not be as bad as you think (you could give us a bit more to go on), so you wouldn't need to die for them in the first place.

I'm guessing your fairly young otherwise you wouldn't be suicidal over your family - in which case I think you should just wait till you are old enough to leave home. You kill yourself now and you will only have had a short crappy lifetime under them. If you hold on a little bit, you can live out your life the way you want - make friends do whatever, all without them bothering you.

And to tide you over until then, you have TW!

[Foot]

http://www.befrienders.org/

[Thermal]

Yeah assuming your young you won't need to live with your parents, it depends what they've done but if you really detest them you can get past it later in life, concentrate on your studies, get a good job and you'll be ableto afford a place of your own and take your troubles out of your life for good, the transfer from school to a workplace is drastic, you will no longer get immature idiots or people that don't want to be your friend, life should get better as you get older.

[Ice]

Think of the person who likes/loves you the most. What would you committing suicide do to them?

[Prussian to the Iron]

Why do you want to commit suicide? Personally, I do not think it will be more pleasant than the life. I am not very religious but... this is a suicide after all. You know, you never know what follows after death... Just think on the process of rotting!

How old are you?

Why do you think you can not make any friends in the future?

What happened with your family? Divorce? Has somebody died?

im only 13. if the only thing after this life is rotting in the ground, im happy with that. its an easy escape to a miserable life.

ive never had more than 1 friend at a time. ive always been treated like shit in school. i am horrible at making friends (i skipped 1st grade)

Don't do it!
I'm guessing your fairly young otherwise you wouldn't be suicidal over your family - in which case I think you should just wait till you are old enough to leave home. You kill yourself now and you will only have had a short crappy lifetime under them. If you hold on a little bit, you can live out your life the way you want - make friends do whatever, all without them bothering you.

And to tide you over until then, you have TW!

m dad took everything off my computer.including europa barbarorum, the only thing that might've held me back.

the problem is i cannot leave home for 5 years, and then i would be going off to college and thus having to deal with more assholes.

the life i want is too prefect to be able to possibly happen.

[Hooahguy]

dont do it.
there is so much to live for.
http://suicidehotlines.com/

[||Lz3||]

I wonder if the forums will appear in the news...

Why is it that the younger people are, the less they appreciate life?

There's always an option, there's always a chance.

[Thermal]

im only 13. if the only thing after this life is rotting in the ground, im happy with that. its an easy escape to a miserable life.

ive never had more than 1 friend at a time. ive always been treated like shit in school. i am horrible at making friends (i skipped 1st grade)


m dad took everything off my computer.including europa barbarorum, the only thing that might've held me back.

the problem is i cannot leave home for 5 years, and then i would be going off to college and thus having to deal with more assholes.

the life i want is too prefect to be able to possibly happen.

If 5 years of misery will allow you easily 50 years of a good life, then I'd hold strong and endure.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Think of the person who likes/loves you the most. What would you committing suicide do to them?

my grandma. she wil recover eventually. i need an escape from life desperately

[Rhyfelwyr]

m dad took everything off my computer.including europa barbarorum, the only thing that might've held me back.

the problem is i cannot leave home for 5 years, and then i would be going off to college and thus having to deal with more assholes.

the life i want is too prefect to be able to possibly happen.

You might not believe me, but time dramatically, dramatically speeds up at your age. When I was 13 a year at school was like a lifetime, by a couple of years later a year just seemed the equivalent of a couple of months back then.

Plus you can make as many friends as you like. There's so much change in the whole social climate in schools from your age upwards, people will not define you by how they look at you now. If you think you're uncool or whatever, just change a bit (not your character, just make a bit of effort) and you'll integrate fine.

[Lemur]

I'll just state the obvious, that an online gaming fan forum is not the place to seek help for life-and-death issues.

A couple of people have been so good as to post links to real hotlines, which can offer meaningful help.

[Ibrahim]

man, you clearly have your life ahead of you. If you don't give up, you might just get good luck, and leave your family. that should come in c.5 years, if you work hard enough. and have patience-5 years isn't as long as an eternity in the grave, and afterwards, if they try anything stupid, you can sue 'em (because by then, you'd be 18). you are throughing away potential here, a possible future.

besides, why not just go make friends? firends are one's support line. you can leave the house more regularly, and escape your family-and don't give me this 1 friend at a time crap-you or anyone else can do better than that. and I mean anybody!

and judging from your other posts (at EBII and the TWcenter), I recommend that you act more kindly to your neighbors-maybe that will help make friends?

and lastly: why are they at school are treating you like arseholes? you manners? intelligence? what?

If its manners, see above.

If its your smarts/other causes, just do what I do : say to yourself: "f*** them", and move on. you do not need people who pick on you for that. besides, if it is because of that, you will more likely end up ahead of the others in social place.

EDIT: I was going to look, but as a couple of good men here have done it, go to the links they provided.

[Hooahguy]

ive struggled with suicide before. its hard. i know. just hang in there. believe. do you belong to a religion? if you do, go to your local priest/rabbi/imam or whatnot and talk.

[Prince Cobra]

im only 13. if the only thing after this life is rotting in the ground, im happy with that. its an easy escape to a miserable life.

ive never had more than 1 friend at a time. ive always been treated like shit in school.

i am horrible at making friends (i skipped 1st grade)

OK. First, don't take for granted you will just rot in the earth... Or that it won't hurt. What is soul? Energy or something different? Are you sure you will not burn into hell for example?

But anyway... Then I have to tell you my story, then.

When I was 13 I was just in the same position. The world after 11 broke into pieces and I lost all of my friends. Why? I don't know. There are always people that are so miserable that have only one pleasure: to treat the others badly. But you see, one day you will get out of this nightmare (change the school and etc. and etc. ). SLowly but surely my life improved... then I had another fit (less dramatic) few years ago but I again recovered. Things are getiing better. But you shall fight for it! Now I have a handful of friends but I do have friends. I believe you will also succeed.

If still not persuaded, please try this:

I'll just state the obvious, that an online gaming fan forum is not the place to seek help for life-and-death issues.

A couple of people have been so good as to post links to real hotlines, which can offer meaningful help.

[Aemilius Paulus]

It would help if you would tell what is making your life so miserable. As for now, I cannot really say anything meaningful. Also, I would like to know your age. If you are under 20, then life is just beginning for you. Shame to waste it now. Very defeatist to waste it now. Plenty of children/youths have horrible lives. Millions lead lives far, far worse than yours. I know I am not being very kind right now, but as you can see, the lack of knowledge of the details of your life makes helping difficult.

I guarantee that when you get older, to about 30 or 40 years old, you will look back and be thankful that you have not given up on living today. If not, you can always commit suicide later . No joking here. The beginning of one's life should not be a time to contemplate suicide. If your life does not improve by the time you are forty, at least you have given it a try. But you seem to be too young to die yet.

[pezhetairoi]

Dude, it just isn't worth it. When I was your age I thought life was crap too. I had no friends, and my family was driving me insane. I never attempted it, but I did stand in front of the balcony in school thrice thinking about jumping. But in the end, it's a good thing I didn't alright?

You may think you're going to deal with more garbage types in college or highschool or whatnot, but there's no way to know it--there's only one way to find out, and that's to go through with it. You're only 13--there's a whole life ahead of you. How sad it is that being so young, nevertheless you think you've seen everything there is of life. There's far more to it yet. Bide your time if you have to--I outlasted my family and now, at 22, everything is going well for me, and I have the respect of friends and family alike where I had almost nothing. Bide your time now, and see if college is REALLY what you think of it before doing anything foolish--for suicide IS foolish. When alive things can always change for the better. Escaping from life--what are you escaping to?

You don't need these 'friends' as much as you think you do--seriously. People have to deserve you, not you deserve people. Not having friends shouldn't be a reason to end your life. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having one friend at a time--I personally hate having too many 'friends' at a time, and prefer investing in one good friendship rather than countless temporary ones.

Nor is having EB removed from your computer a reason--my parents deleted every single strategy game in my old computer and password-protected it. I just played it in my mind, and created countless battles of my own--and I began reading about history, which has served me so much over the years that I'm now studying it in university.

You want a reason not to die? It's this: You are dying because of, and for, what others have done. But you miss the point.YOU LIVE FOR YOURSELF. Not for others. Let them think what they want, let them do what they want. You are who you are and they can't take that away from you. They can take away EB--but they can't take away your mind. They can take away your freedoms--but then again, you're only 13. Stay home a little longer--much of Life (the interesting and less crappy version) only begins later in life. You're not missing anything important yet--seriously.

Don't do anything foolish. If you really want to kill yourself, then at least give yourself and your soul the fighting chance of a few more years before you do it. See if college really is full of those assholes before you do it. You're planning to kill yourself over an assumption. But killing yourself at 13 is...just seriously not worth it. Don't look around you anymore since you know the view's depressing--look forward instead, and continue walking down the road.

[desert]

I guess that was too brusque?

Link to American suicide hotlines.

An amusing article that will put things in perspective.

[Jolt]

Kid, being 13 sucks. Its ridiculous (I'm sorry to put it so bluntly) that you wanna stop living your life so soon when you practically haven't even started it. You have NO idea what is coming for you in 5 years, when you (Hopefully) graduate. I have to confess that at all my bad times in my life, I always thought positive. (Bleh, life will eventually improve.) Some people think its sorta wierd that when I'm down, I laugh a lot at insignificant things, because I love living through the bad times since when I go through them, I remember that I had said things were gonna improve and they did. Just as I'm 100% sure that your life WILL improve. You quite possibly won't be everything you want to be, have all the friends and girls you want, but these will eventually come (Heck, I'm 19, and I know ALOT of guys who still haven't got a single girlfriend yet, by my age)

Here's my casual solution for a 13th year old kid (I know school sucks, everyone laughs mocks you, etc.)

First thing: Are you good with school? If you are then try to focus as much as you can (I wasn't the coolest guy in the block, and I was (mildly) ridiculed. Nothing I couldn't cope with. Focussing on school (And games. :P) was one of my ways to pay back at them.) Focus on school, it will be your future, many of the guys and girls who laugh at you won't be one tenth of what you'll be in the future if you focus on it.

Second thing: Are you good (As in enjoying. Being good is just a bonus.) with any sports? You SERIOUSLY NEED to get into collective Sports (Soccer/Football, Volleyball, Handball, Basketball, anything). They are the salvation for most guys in your condition. You'll have to forget the fear of being ridiculed and try your hardest at improving in that Sport. And try to socialize, even if others shrug you off (Depends on the collective mood towards newcomers), whether or not you're well recieved in the beginning, most of the times you end up being friends with your teammates (Or some of them) At your age, youth's teams always field everyone regardless of skill. So even if you suck (You need to focus also on that Sports), you'll still be able to play and feel like you're contributing to something (YOU WILL CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR TEAM and YOU WILL MAKE FRIENDS, You will hear your coach trying to push you harder, you'll be complemented when you make a good pass, etc. You will take part in the collective celebration of victory when you win games. Provided you stay long enough, you will make friends in there. You can't quit. Show yourself you are a winner.)

Provided you try these things, you will eventually improve your own life. The most important matter is to stay focused and try not to be disturbed by stupid commentaries and as I usually say, life will improve.

[Prussian to the Iron]

When I was 13 I was just in the same position. The world after 11 broke into pieces and I lost all of my friends. Why? I don't know. There are always people that are so miserable that have only one pleasure: to treat the others badly. But you see, one day you will get out of this nightmare (change the school and etc. and etc. ). SLowly but surely my life improved... then I had another fit (less dramatic) few years ago but I again recovered. Things are getiing better. But you shall fight for it! Now I have a handful of friends but I do have friends. I believe you will also succeed.

once again, i have no friends. its sad, but true.

i get into big fights with my parents every 2 or 3 months.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Kid, being 13 sucks. Its ridiculous (I'm sorry to put it so bluntly) that you wanna stop living your life so soon when you practically haven't even started it. You have NO idea what is coming for you in 5 years, when you (Hopefully) graduate. I have to confess that at all my bad times in my life, I always thought positive. (Bleh, life will eventually improve.) Some people think its sorta wierd that when I'm down, I laugh a lot at insignificant things, because I love living through the bad times since when I go through them, I remember that I had said things were gonna improve and they did. Just as I'm 100% sure that your life WILL improve. You quite possibly won't be everything you want to be, have all the friends and girls you want, but these will eventually come (Heck, I'm 19, and I know ALOT of guys who still haven't got a single girlfriend yet, by my age)

Here's my casual solution for a 13th year old kid (I know school sucks, everyone laughs mocks you, etc.)

First thing: Are you good with school? If you are then try to focus as much as you can (I wasn't the coolest guy in the block, and I was (mildly) ridiculed. Nothing I couldn't cope with. Focussing on school (And games. :P) was one of my ways to pay back at them.) Focus on school, it will be your future, many of the guys and girls who laugh at you won't be one tenth of what you'll be in the future if you focus on it.

Second thing: Are you good (As in enjoying. Being good is just a bonus.) with any sports? You SERIOUSLY NEED to get into collective Sports (Soccer/Football, Volleyball, Handball, Basketball, anything). They are the salvation for most guys in your condition. You'll have to forget the fear of being ridiculed and try your hardest at improving in that Sport. And try to socialize, even if others shrug you off (Depends on the collective mood towards newcomers), whether or not you're well recieved in the beginning, most of the times you end up being friends with your teammates (Or some of them) At your age, youth's teams always field everyone regardless of skill. So even if you suck (You need to focus also on that Sports), you'll still be able to play and feel like you're contributing to something (YOU WILL CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR TEAM and YOU WILL MAKE FRIENDS, You will hear your coach trying to push you harder, you'll be complemented when you make a good pass, etc. You will take part in the collective celebration of victory when you win games. Provided you stay long enough, you will make friends in there. You can't quit. Show yourself you are a winner.)

Provided you try these things, you will eventually improve your own life. The most important matter is to stay focused and try not to be disturbed by stupid commentaries and as I usually say, life will improve.

my parents smashed my xbox into a million pieces. my computer is wiped of everything. i have nothing.

[Hooahguy]

try Jolt's suggestion and join a team. even the chess team, if you have one. go out for a run. make it habitual. work out, excercise, read books.
dont concentrate on what you dont have. concentrate on what you HAVE.

[Jolt]

Kid, you don't need your computer nor your XBox. You don't see everyone in Africa depressed because they don't have XBox, do you? As I said, do your best to focus on school and GET yourself into a collective sports. These two things together give you much to handle.

[Prussian to the Iron]

try Jolt's suggestion and join a team. even the chess team, if you have one. go out for a run. make it habitual. work out, excercise, read books.
dont concentrate on what you dont have. concentrate on what you HAVE.

i take school online, and i do baseball. its boring and no one on the team likes me either.

Kid, you don't need your computer nor your XBox. You don't see everyone in Africa depressed because they don't have XBox, do you? As I said, do your best to focus on school and GET yourself into a collective sports. These two things together give you much to handle.

yah and people in africa have never brought thier 8th grade science grade from a 21 up to a 91 in 3 weeks to earn a xbox or computer.