is there a Shogun mod for MTW?

**chris34au** · 03-28-2009, 22:17

i've never played STW but it came with the Total War Eras bundle. i just installed it but then i saw a thread about a Shogun mod for RTW and thought that there might be a chance that someone also made a Shogun mod for MTW.

if not, are there any mods for STW that anyone can recommend or is the vanilla game the best option?

if this thread should be in the STW forum, i apologize. i just thought that this would be the best forum to ask about a Shogun mod for MTW.

**gollum** · 03-28-2009, 22:27

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=105

**caravel** · 03-28-2009, 22:28

There have been two recent AARs of this mod, so I'm surprised you haven't encountered it as yet?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=47087&page=35
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=113524

The mod is actually hosted here at the .org.

-Edit: The easiest way to download the mod is to look for any post by Puzz3D. Everything you need is linked to in his signature. Be sure to get the sound add-on.

**gollum** · 03-28-2009, 22:29

Gotsya

**chris34au** · 03-28-2009, 22:34

i saw the AAR's but i didn't know if that was the actual STW game or a mod for MTW. thanks for the link.

if your AAR was from a MTW mod, i'm guessing that the mod is recommended over the actual STW game. is that accurate? if so, i guess there wasn't really any point in installing STW.

**gollum** · 03-28-2009, 22:37

Actual STW AARs would be in the sword dojo (the STW forum). Enjoy SWs.

**chris34au** · 03-28-2009, 22:45

thanks. i was trying to read up on the game in the sword dojo forum last night but i guess i missed the threads about Samurai Warlords or assumed that it was an STW mod.

**caravel** · 03-28-2009, 22:48

Samurai Warlords would not have been mentioned in the Sword Dojo, because it's an MTW mod. Also STW itself is not very good for modding as most of it is hardcoded.

**caravel** · 03-28-2009, 22:41

Originally Posted by chris34au

if your AAR was from a MTW mod, i'm guessing that the mod is recommended over the actual STW game. is that accurate? if so, i guess there wasn't really any point in installing STW.

Not necessarily. There is a lot to be said for the original STW game. It is definitely worth playing first before you move on to the SW mod.

-Edit: Well it doesn't matter which you play first, but the original STW is worth playing.

**gollum** · 03-28-2009, 22:49

Originally posted by chris34au
if your AAR was from a MTW mod, i'm guessing that the mod is recommended over the actual STW game. is that accurate? if so, i guess there wasn't really any point in installing STW.

No its not accurate - STW has certain features that are essential to it and that the MTW engine cannot reproduce. Such elements are for example the 4 seasons, the weather element, the agent movies, the game events (arrival of foreigners, the master swordsman event etc), the throne room.

However - the MTW engine also has many extra features that teh STW engine didnt had (like the titles, the civil war feature and navies/trade) and in addition the mod has very many more factions than the original STW giving a different flavor to the game.

Imho, as much as i like MTW STW is (slightly) better.

**caravel** · 03-28-2009, 22:53

gollum sums it up perfectly. Well said Sir.

I miss the four seasons more than anything else. Yes I miss some of the other features but the one year turns in MTW are just so very wrong.

-Edit: The extra factions in SW are a very big plus though.

-Edit2:

Originally Posted by chris34au

RTW doesn't sound like it's even worth installing but i'm just going by what little that i've read from others about it.

RTW has some redeeming features and it has a lot of very good mods available. Battles are easy, rushed affairs however and even on the hardest setting you'll find yourself crushing the hopelessly inept AI again and again. The campaign map is "interesting", but again it's the AI that lets it down - it simply cannot handle the more complex movement point and diplomacy system.

**chris34au** · 03-28-2009, 22:51

Originally Posted by Caravel

Not necessarily. There is a lot to be said for the original STW game. It is definitely worth playing first before you move on to the SW mod.

-Edit: Well it doesn't matter which you play first, but the original STW is worth playing.

thanks again for the help. i think i'll go ahead and try a STW campaign to try to get familiar with the game but it's great to know that there's also a MTW mod available. it probably sounds kinda lame but i'm really looking forward to having another TW game to get into. RTW doesn't sound like it's even worth installing but i'm just going by what little that i've read from others about it.