unit hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard

[Mithick666]

when i play Cavalry Generals' Bodyguard has its voice in custombattle but not in campaign

[Tellos Athenaios]

This may be an omission on our part. However, because I have just re-installed my Vista (and in the process wiped my HD clean) I don't at-this-point have a working RTW+EB set up.

Fortunately you can help me verify this bug by answering a couple of questions:

1. Do you use the Trivial Script to launch EB?
   
   1. Do you use the Multi Player shortcut to launch custom battles?
   2. Do you use the Single Player shortcut to launch campaigns?
2. Did/do you manually edit export_descr_units.txt (edu for short) files?
   
   1. Do you use the multi player edu as a basis for custom battles?
   2. Do you use the single player edu as a basis for campaigns?
   3. Did/do you edit the hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard unit you mentioned?
3. Did you install minimods? In particular any minimod that includes changes to export_descr_units.txt (edu for short) ?

[Mithick666]

1.- yes i use Trivial Script
1.1 yes
1.2 yes
2.-no i have a clean copy of EB installed
2.1 yes
2.2 yes
2.3 no
3.-no

it is a problem with all hellenic generals in campaing(epiros,arches,ptolomaic)

[Mithick666]

can somebody help me?

[Tellos Athenaios]

It could be that the voice type information is different across the EDU's which would be a bug, and could explain this 'glitch'. If this information is consistent across both files then there's somehting else going on (venturing a guess: possibly because of the difference between captains and generals).

I'll look at the files later today (but it is currently 07:06 over here and I whole day ahead of me, so please be patient).

[Mithick666]

It could be that the voice type information is different across the EDU's which would be a bug, and could explain this 'glitch'. If this information is consistent across both files then there's somehting else going on (venturing a guess: possibly because of the difference between captains and generals).

I'll look at the files later today (but it is currently 07:06 over here and I whole day ahead of me, so please be patient).

thak you Tellos Athenaios i will wait

[Tellos Athenaios]

Within the SVN trunk both units no 275 (search for ";275", the unit hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard) have the same voice types; namely Light_1. However there are numerous entries to statisfy the needs for this unit type, the next one being ;522 (immediately following ;275). Again, both versions (mp and sp) edu appear to use the same voice type, however ;522 uses a different voice type from ;275: Female_1. (And this pattern is used for the Ptolemaic bodyguard as well, this time using Medium_1.

It could be that this different voice types across various factions for conceptually the 'same' unit exposes a bug in the *other* text files? Anyways, could you please verify if this makes a difference: that is if it makes a difference whether you use a Seleukid bodyguard in campaign from a Ptolemaic or a Makedonian one; test in MP/custom battles as well?

[Mithick666]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

275
type hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard
dictionary hellenistic_cavalry_generals_bodyguard ; Somatophylakes Strategou
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Light_1
soldier hellenistic_cavalry_hetairoi_molossianagema_ponitclatebodyguard, 10, 0, 1
mount hetairoi companion horse
mount_effect elephant -1, chariot +2
attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, hardy, ;no_custom
formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square
stat_health 1, 1
stat_pri 5, 41, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 180 ,0.38
stat_pri_attr ap
stat_sec 11, 22, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, slashing, sword, 0 ,0.11
stat_sec_attr ap
stat_pri_armour 18, 12, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, metal
stat_heat 5
stat_ground 0, 0, -5, -3
stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 40
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 2307, 0, 100, 160, 2307
ownership macedon

;522
type hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard 2
dictionary hellenistic_cavalry_generals_bodyguard ; Somatophylakes Strategou
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Female_1
soldier hellenistic_cavalry_hetairoi_molossianagema_ponitclatebodyguard, 10, 0, 1
mount hetairoi companion horse
mount_effect elephant -1, chariot +2
attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, hardy, ;no_custom
formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square
stat_health 1, 1
stat_pri 5, 41, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 200 ,0.4
stat_pri_attr ap
stat_sec 11, 22, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, slashing, sword, 0 ,0.11
stat_sec_attr ap
stat_pri_armour 18, 12, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, metal
stat_heat 5
stat_ground 0, 0, -5, -3
stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 40
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 2307, 0, 100, 160, 2307
ownership romans_julii

;523
type hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard 3
dictionary hellenistic_cavalry_generals_bodyguard ; Somatophylakes Strategou
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Medium_1
soldier hellenistic_cavalry_hetairoi_molossianagema_ponitclatebodyguard, 10, 0, 1
mount hetairoi companion horse
mount_effect elephant -1, chariot +2
attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, hardy, ;no_custom
formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square
stat_health 1, 1
stat_pri 5, 41, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 180 ,0.38
stat_pri_attr ap
stat_sec 11, 22, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, slashing, sword, 0 ,0.11
stat_sec_attr ap
stat_pri_armour 18, 12, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, metal
stat_heat 4
stat_ground 0, 0, -5, -3
stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 40
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 2307, 0, 100, 160, 2307
ownership numidia

;430
type hellenistic cavalry molossianagema bodyguard
dictionary hellenistic_cavalry_generals_bodyguard ; Somatophylakes Strategou
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy_1
soldier hellenistic_cavalry_hetairoi_molossianagema_ponitclatebodyguard, 10, 0, 1
mount saddle horse heavy
mount_effect elephant -1, chariot +2
attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, very_hardy, ;no_custom
formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square
stat_health 1, 1
stat_pri 5, 34, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 180 ,0.38
stat_pri_attr ap
stat_sec 11, 15, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, slashing, sword, 0 ,0.11
stat_sec_attr ap
stat_pri_armour 12, 13, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 4
stat_ground 0, 0, -3, -1
stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1850, 0, 100, 160, 1850
ownership thrace

there is not difference betwen edu sp and mp and i test mp and all they have their voice and campaing and history battles they donot have.
it is only when there is a family member.

[Tellos Athenaios]

it is only when there is a family member.

Yes I figured as much: but you can't really do much about it (and you wouldn't want to either).

[Mithick666]

then i does not have solution?
i think that only i have this problem?