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    Default unit hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard

    when i play Cavalry Generals' Bodyguard has its voice in custombattle but not in campaign

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    This may be an omission on our part. However, because I have just re-installed my Vista (and in the process wiped my HD clean) I don't at-this-point have a working RTW+EB set up.

    Fortunately you can help me verify this bug by answering a couple of questions:

    1. Do you use the Trivial Script to launch EB?
      1. Do you use the Multi Player shortcut to launch custom battles?
      2. Do you use the Single Player shortcut to launch campaigns?
    2. Did/do you manually edit export_descr_units.txt (edu for short) files?
      1. Do you use the multi player edu as a basis for custom battles?
      2. Do you use the single player edu as a basis for campaigns?
      3. Did/do you edit the hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard unit you mentioned?
    3. Did you install minimods? In particular any minimod that includes changes to export_descr_units.txt (edu for short) ?
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    Default Re: unit hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard

    1.- yes i use Trivial Script
    1.1 yes
    1.2 yes
    2.-no i have a clean copy of EB installed
    2.1 yes
    2.2 yes
    2.3 no
    3.-no

    it is a problem with all hellenic generals in campaing(epiros,arches,ptolomaic)

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    Default Re: unit hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard

    can somebody help me?

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    It could be that the voice type information is different across the EDU's which would be a bug, and could explain this 'glitch'. If this information is consistent across both files then there's somehting else going on (venturing a guess: possibly because of the difference between captains and generals).

    I'll look at the files later today (but it is currently 07:06 over here and I whole day ahead of me, so please be patient).
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    Default Re: unit hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard

    Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios View Post
    It could be that the voice type information is different across the EDU's which would be a bug, and could explain this 'glitch'. If this information is consistent across both files then there's somehting else going on (venturing a guess: possibly because of the difference between captains and generals).

    I'll look at the files later today (but it is currently 07:06 over here and I whole day ahead of me, so please be patient).
    thak you Tellos Athenaios i will wait

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    Within the SVN trunk both units no 275 (search for ";275", the unit hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard) have the same voice types; namely Light_1. However there are numerous entries to statisfy the needs for this unit type, the next one being ;522 (immediately following ;275). Again, both versions (mp and sp) edu appear to use the same voice type, however ;522 uses a different voice type from ;275: Female_1. (And this pattern is used for the Ptolemaic bodyguard as well, this time using Medium_1.

    It could be that this different voice types across various factions for conceptually the 'same' unit exposes a bug in the *other* text files? Anyways, could you please verify if this makes a difference: that is if it makes a difference whether you use a Seleukid bodyguard in campaign from a Ptolemaic or a Makedonian one; test in MP/custom battles as well?
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    Default Re: unit hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard

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    type hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard
    dictionary hellenistic_cavalry_generals_bodyguard ; Somatophylakes Strategou
    category cavalry
    class heavy
    voice_type Light_1
    soldier hellenistic_cavalry_hetairoi_molossianagema_ponitclatebodyguard, 10, 0, 1
    mount hetairoi companion horse
    mount_effect elephant -1, chariot +2
    attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, hardy, ;no_custom
    formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square
    stat_health 1, 1
    stat_pri 5, 41, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 180 ,0.38
    stat_pri_attr ap
    stat_sec 11, 22, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, slashing, sword, 0 ,0.11
    stat_sec_attr ap
    stat_pri_armour 18, 12, 0, metal
    stat_sec_armour 0, 0, metal
    stat_heat 5
    stat_ground 0, 0, -5, -3
    stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
    stat_charge_dist 40
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 1, 2307, 0, 100, 160, 2307
    ownership macedon

    ;522
    type hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard 2
    dictionary hellenistic_cavalry_generals_bodyguard ; Somatophylakes Strategou
    category cavalry
    class heavy
    voice_type Female_1
    soldier hellenistic_cavalry_hetairoi_molossianagema_ponitclatebodyguard, 10, 0, 1
    mount hetairoi companion horse
    mount_effect elephant -1, chariot +2
    attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, hardy, ;no_custom
    formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square
    stat_health 1, 1
    stat_pri 5, 41, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 200 ,0.4
    stat_pri_attr ap
    stat_sec 11, 22, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, slashing, sword, 0 ,0.11
    stat_sec_attr ap
    stat_pri_armour 18, 12, 0, metal
    stat_sec_armour 0, 0, metal
    stat_heat 5
    stat_ground 0, 0, -5, -3
    stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
    stat_charge_dist 40
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 1, 2307, 0, 100, 160, 2307
    ownership romans_julii

    ;523
    type hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard 3
    dictionary hellenistic_cavalry_generals_bodyguard ; Somatophylakes Strategou
    category cavalry
    class heavy
    voice_type Medium_1
    soldier hellenistic_cavalry_hetairoi_molossianagema_ponitclatebodyguard, 10, 0, 1
    mount hetairoi companion horse
    mount_effect elephant -1, chariot +2
    attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, hardy, ;no_custom
    formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square
    stat_health 1, 1
    stat_pri 5, 41, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 180 ,0.38
    stat_pri_attr ap
    stat_sec 11, 22, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, slashing, sword, 0 ,0.11
    stat_sec_attr ap
    stat_pri_armour 18, 12, 0, metal
    stat_sec_armour 0, 0, metal
    stat_heat 4
    stat_ground 0, 0, -5, -3
    stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
    stat_charge_dist 40
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 1, 2307, 0, 100, 160, 2307
    ownership numidia

    ;430
    type hellenistic cavalry molossianagema bodyguard
    dictionary hellenistic_cavalry_generals_bodyguard ; Somatophylakes Strategou
    category cavalry
    class heavy
    voice_type Heavy_1
    soldier hellenistic_cavalry_hetairoi_molossianagema_ponitclatebodyguard, 10, 0, 1
    mount saddle horse heavy
    mount_effect elephant -1, chariot +2
    attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, very_hardy, ;no_custom
    formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square
    stat_health 1, 1
    stat_pri 5, 34, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 180 ,0.38
    stat_pri_attr ap
    stat_sec 11, 15, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, slashing, sword, 0 ,0.11
    stat_sec_attr ap
    stat_pri_armour 12, 13, 0, metal
    stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
    stat_heat 4
    stat_ground 0, 0, -3, -1
    stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
    stat_charge_dist 45
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 1, 1850, 0, 100, 160, 1850
    ownership thrace


    there is not difference betwen edu sp and mp and i test mp and all they have their voice and campaing and history battles they donot have.
    it is only when there is a family member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithick666 View Post
    it is only when there is a family member.
    Yes I figured as much: but you can't really do much about it (and you wouldn't want to either).
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    Default Re: unit hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard

    then i does not have solution?
    i think that only i have this problem?

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