unit hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard

[Mithick666]

1.- yes i use Trivial Script
1.1 yes
1.2 yes
2.-no i have a clean copy of EB installed
2.1 yes
2.2 yes
2.3 no
3.-no

it is a problem with all hellenic generals in campaing(epiros,arches,ptolomaic)

[Mithick666]

can somebody help me?

[Tellos Athenaios]

It could be that the voice type information is different across the EDU's which would be a bug, and could explain this 'glitch'. If this information is consistent across both files then there's somehting else going on (venturing a guess: possibly because of the difference between captains and generals).

I'll look at the files later today (but it is currently 07:06 over here and I whole day ahead of me, so please be patient).

[Mithick666]

It could be that the voice type information is different across the EDU's which would be a bug, and could explain this 'glitch'. If this information is consistent across both files then there's somehting else going on (venturing a guess: possibly because of the difference between captains and generals).

I'll look at the files later today (but it is currently 07:06 over here and I whole day ahead of me, so please be patient).

thak you Tellos Athenaios i will wait

[Tellos Athenaios]

Within the SVN trunk both units no 275 (search for ";275", the unit hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard) have the same voice types; namely Light_1. However there are numerous entries to statisfy the needs for this unit type, the next one being ;522 (immediately following ;275). Again, both versions (mp and sp) edu appear to use the same voice type, however ;522 uses a different voice type from ;275: Female_1. (And this pattern is used for the Ptolemaic bodyguard as well, this time using Medium_1.

It could be that this different voice types across various factions for conceptually the 'same' unit exposes a bug in the *other* text files? Anyways, could you please verify if this makes a difference: that is if it makes a difference whether you use a Seleukid bodyguard in campaign from a Ptolemaic or a Makedonian one; test in MP/custom battles as well?

[Mithick666]

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275
type hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard
dictionary hellenistic_cavalry_generals_bodyguard ; Somatophylakes Strategou
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Light_1
soldier hellenistic_cavalry_hetairoi_molossianagema_ponitclatebodyguard, 10, 0, 1
mount hetairoi companion horse
mount_effect elephant -1, chariot +2
attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, hardy, ;no_custom
formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square
stat_health 1, 1
stat_pri 5, 41, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 180 ,0.38
stat_pri_attr ap
stat_sec 11, 22, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, slashing, sword, 0 ,0.11
stat_sec_attr ap
stat_pri_armour 18, 12, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, metal
stat_heat 5
stat_ground 0, 0, -5, -3
stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 40
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 2307, 0, 100, 160, 2307
ownership macedon

;522
type hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard 2
dictionary hellenistic_cavalry_generals_bodyguard ; Somatophylakes Strategou
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Female_1
soldier hellenistic_cavalry_hetairoi_molossianagema_ponitclatebodyguard, 10, 0, 1
mount hetairoi companion horse
mount_effect elephant -1, chariot +2
attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, hardy, ;no_custom
formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square
stat_health 1, 1
stat_pri 5, 41, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 200 ,0.4
stat_pri_attr ap
stat_sec 11, 22, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, slashing, sword, 0 ,0.11
stat_sec_attr ap
stat_pri_armour 18, 12, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, metal
stat_heat 5
stat_ground 0, 0, -5, -3
stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 40
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 2307, 0, 100, 160, 2307
ownership romans_julii

;523
type hellenistic cavalry generals bodyguard 3
dictionary hellenistic_cavalry_generals_bodyguard ; Somatophylakes Strategou
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Medium_1
soldier hellenistic_cavalry_hetairoi_molossianagema_ponitclatebodyguard, 10, 0, 1
mount hetairoi companion horse
mount_effect elephant -1, chariot +2
attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, hardy, ;no_custom
formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square
stat_health 1, 1
stat_pri 5, 41, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 180 ,0.38
stat_pri_attr ap
stat_sec 11, 22, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, slashing, sword, 0 ,0.11
stat_sec_attr ap
stat_pri_armour 18, 12, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, metal
stat_heat 4
stat_ground 0, 0, -5, -3
stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 40
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 2307, 0, 100, 160, 2307
ownership numidia

;430
type hellenistic cavalry molossianagema bodyguard
dictionary hellenistic_cavalry_generals_bodyguard ; Somatophylakes Strategou
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy_1
soldier hellenistic_cavalry_hetairoi_molossianagema_ponitclatebodyguard, 10, 0, 1
mount saddle horse heavy
mount_effect elephant -1, chariot +2
attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, very_hardy, ;no_custom
formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square
stat_health 1, 1
stat_pri 5, 34, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 180 ,0.38
stat_pri_attr ap
stat_sec 11, 15, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, slashing, sword, 0 ,0.11
stat_sec_attr ap
stat_pri_armour 12, 13, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 4
stat_ground 0, 0, -3, -1
stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1850, 0, 100, 160, 1850
ownership thrace

there is not difference betwen edu sp and mp and i test mp and all they have their voice and campaing and history battles they donot have.
it is only when there is a family member.

[Tellos Athenaios]

it is only when there is a family member.

Yes I figured as much: but you can't really do much about it (and you wouldn't want to either).