Selling Military access and gaining much money

[Beskar]

360 gets patches via xbox live. They actually removed my favourite exploit from a Oblivion that way. Used to be able to kill a man in a certain way, if you do, you can loot money from him infinite times becoming mega rich. Obviously, it isn't a problem as no one is forcing you to keep looting from this person a million times.

[Dayve]

Exactly. I also played Oblivion 12 hours a day for around 6 months, with OOO mod, and still play it even today in the wee hours of the morning when the atmosphere is right, it's a good game, and there were many exploits, like the fast travel exploit where you can instantly warp yourself from 1 end of the world to the other in around 3 seconds, for absolutely no cost whatsoever or penalties.

I was never even tempted to use it, it completely spoiled the game. I enjoyed running for 20 minutes to get to where i wanted to go, and coming close to being eaten or burned by a fireball several times along the way, that was all part of the fun.

However, if i did use the fast travel feature to get to where i wanted to go instantly, i wouldn't go to a forum and say WAAAH I'M BORED BECAUSE I COMPLETED THE GAME IN 10 MINUTES BECAUSE I FAST TRAVELLED EVERYWHERE! GAME IS BROKEN!

[anweRU]

I never thought of selling military access. I've been using it for gaining trade agreements or alliances.

And nope, I'm not complaining about it.

[Beskar]

However, if i did use the fast travel feature to get to where i wanted to go instantly, i wouldn't go to a forum and say WAAAH I'M BORED BECAUSE I COMPLETED THE GAME IN 10 MINUTES BECAUSE I FAST TRAVELLED EVERYWHERE! GAME IS BROKEN!

Haha, unfortunately this happened a lot. But I perfectly agree, it's part of the fun.

Admittedly, I half used it and half-didn't. Sometimes when you are just running backwards and forwards, it was a little annoying, so I just fast travelled, but I enjoyed going on random adventures and coming across these missions I would never would have seen otherwise.

Also the difficulty modifier was absolutely insane. At the very bottom, you flick snot at some one, while at the very top, you just had to run for your life. I remember one game, this was the very first time playing it and I had it the hardest difficulty. I stumbled near where that warrior-monk-priest guy is, who was the leader of the blades and there is a bandit there saying to give him some money or get killed. As I just cleared the dungeon area, I was thinking "He can't be that hard" and oh boy, I was so wrong. What happened was the greatest game of tag I ever seen. After being completely over whelmed, I got the lead on him as he has to keep slowing down to attack, or so it seemed which allowed me to keep ahead. Unfortunately I didn't head towards chorrel either, I sort of just ran into a random direction and it took ages to I found a guard to fight him so he got off me.

Yeah, then people complained the game was too easy when they had it on "flick a bolger and die" setting.

[nafod]

Exactly. I also played Oblivion 12 hours a day for around 6 months, with OOO mod, and still play it even today in the wee hours of the morning when the atmosphere is right, it's a good game, and there were many exploits, like the fast travel exploit where you can instantly warp yourself from 1 end of the world to the other in around 3 seconds, for absolutely no cost whatsoever or penalties.

I was never even tempted to use it, it completely spoiled the game. I enjoyed running for 20 minutes to get to where i wanted to go, and coming close to being eaten or burned by a fireball several times along the way, that was all part of the fun.

However, if i did use the fast travel feature to get to where i wanted to go instantly, i wouldn't go to a forum and say WAAAH I'M BORED BECAUSE I COMPLETED THE GAME IN 10 MINUTES BECAUSE I FAST TRAVELLED EVERYWHERE! GAME IS BROKEN!

I preferred Francescoes mod myself. However I was one of the Morrowind fans that felt Oblivion paled in comparison to it's much larger and in my opinion, more immersive predecessor.

Oblivion marked the end of my support for Bethesda.

However I do agree with your stance that the fast travel option was merely included. I think the larger gripe wasn't so much that a player could use it or not, but rather that traditional immersive travel option were not included which were present in Morrowind.

That's what killed the immersion, hoof it, ride it or fast travel. No barges or silt striders were present.

Admittedly adding them would be a very mute point. What player would pay to go from the swamps to (correct me if I'm wrong here, but the capital city) Teldrassil, if he could just go to the map for free.

I've seen similar arguments in the Silent Hunter series where the "pros" argue that convoys and enemy shipping are too common. Auto calculating torpedo trajectory is too easy etc. One simply put doesn't have to use it.

Notably when I played oblivion I used fast travel maybe 25% of the time. I enjoyed exploring, but huffing it back and forth was pointless.

Wow this post makes me want to find a copy of Morrowind....