Should we prevent suicide attempts?

**Fragony** · 03-31-2009, 01:32

There is a difference between allowing and being to allow to. Of course you are allowed to kill yourself but this isn't a legal issue.

**Hooahguy** · 03-31-2009, 02:07

yes, i think we should. and considering most of us helped someone recently fro killing themselves, i think its a very worthwhile thing to do.

**Lemur** · 03-31-2009, 02:39

When another person wants to make a choice that will end his or her ability to make any more choices, I think it's legitimate to intervene.

Examples: Joining a cult, committing suicide, doing drugs on a scale that will destroy cognitive function, go off anti-psychotic medication ... sheesh, looking back at those situations, the only one I haven't been through with a friend or relative is the first.

Anyway, the problem with decision-ending decisions is that the person who goes that route denies himself the chance to wake up later and say, "What a complete barking idiot I've been." That's why it's fair game for friends, family and even strangers to intervene.

**Alexander the Pretty Good** · 03-31-2009, 04:41

Originally Posted by Lemur

When another person wants to make a choice that will end his or her ability to make any more choices, I think it's legitimate to intervene.

Examples: Joining a cult, committing suicide, doing drugs on a scale that will destroy cognitive function, go off anti-psychotic medication ... sheesh, looking back at those situations, the only one I haven't been through with a friend or relative is the first.

Anyway, the problem with decision-ending decisions is that the person who goes that route denies himself the chance to wake up later and say, "What a complete barking idiot I've been." That's why it's fair game for friends, family and even strangers to intervene.

A little off topic, but do you apply that logic to seatbelt laws?

**Lemur** · 03-31-2009, 05:18

Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good

A little off topic, but do you apply that logic to seatbelt laws?

Not for adults. If they want to needlessly put themselves in jeopardy, that's their right. But they should be ticketed for allowing minors to be loose in a vehicle, especially at highway speeds. Likewise, adults who want to ride motorcycles without a helmet should be allowed to do so.

Risky behavior does not equal suicidal behavior.

**Lord Winter** · 03-31-2009, 05:41

So the line is drawn at intent, not what actually comes out of the action?

**Major Robert Dump** · 03-31-2009, 08:06

Well if you are a cop you stop people from preventing suicide by killing them. Unless the media is present, then you counsel them.

Other than that, adult people should be allowed to kill themselves if they want, regardless of whether or not they can prove they have a fatal illness. In fact, they pretty much can. It's easy, I could do it right now if I want. Unless I had a fatal illness I guess and was stuck in bed, then I'd need someone to do it for me.

I seem to miss what part of dying with dignity entails being eaten alive by cancer as opposed to putting a round in your heart or sucking on a tail pipe.....oh wait, I remember now, legal suicide would hurt the industrial medical machine because they couldn't siphon away families savings for treatments that only prolong suffering.

**Papewaio** · 03-31-2009, 22:20

Originally Posted by Lemur

Examples: Joining a cult, committing suicide, doing drugs on a scale that will destroy cognitive function, go off anti-psychotic medication ... sheesh, looking back at those situations, the only one I haven't been through with a friend or relative is the first.

Lemur look around. You are an Orgah. You are in a cult.