The Council of Villains- Large Mafia Game [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well I cant fight these heroes anymore
Ive forgotten what I started fighting for
Its time to smash the plumber, but I'm sore
So I'll throw in the towel, and ROAR.

Cause I cant fight these heroes anymore
Ive forgotten why I hate the plumber to the core
But somehow I want to stomp on him some more
Come crashing through his door
villains, and leave him bleeding on the floor.

I guess maybe I can fight these heroes some more.
I'll give Mario just what he's asking for.
I'll tear off his stupid mustache and roar
there will be lots of guts and gore
Baby, I guess I can fight these heroes once more.

[thefluffyone93]

well....i guess you are good i mean....evil....well......its good to know that!
oh....and i can personally attest that beefy's alignment has NOT shifted

[Chaotix]

Ok, the site is back- and I have just logged on and been able to post since the "crash" or "error".

Night is over, because I already have all the night actions, but I don't have the write-up, or any will to do it late at night like this. I'll have the write-up done in the morning, and then we can get this game running again.

[Chaotix]

Night 11

The night was quiet… there was no movement in the halls, no violent noise, and nobody dead when morning came.

The six remaining villains were surprised at the apparent lack of a dead body. Either there was no traitor left at all, and the Arbiter had been bluffing… or he was simply hiding his true nature… waiting for a chance to strike.

These six villains were probably the most powerful of all that were in the original Council. Perhaps there were a few toppled powerhouses… but all six of these were a force to be reckoned with, and would make a difficult enemy to overcome.

Bowser, the Koopa King, the kidnapper of princesses and the terror of the Mushroom Kingdom. He had become the major dominating force of the Council, and his word was met with nearly immediate obedience whenever he spoke. Could he have been controlling the villains this whole time for his own means?

Dr. Eggman, the great and mad scientist who brought the Council of Villains together with his magnificent machines. He is the inspiration behind the Super Vague Weapon of Ambiguously Decided Doom. Perhaps his intentions never were to work with the villains, but instead to destroy them and add their power to his own?

Ganondorf, the King of All Evil, and the great darkness that plagues Hyrule every century. He has been a staunch ally of Eggman and Bowser since the beginning, but on occasion they do not see eye to eye. Could Ganondorf be secretly plotting to kill the two, and take the dark power all for himself?

Sephiroth, the proud, extremely powerful warrior, who kills without a second thought. He was once beautiful as well, with pure skin, silvery white hair, and piercing eyes. Now, due to his presence in the Council, he has been irrevocably scarred. Might he want revenge on everyone who brought Kefka’s guilt into the light, and so caused his disfiguration?

Meta-Ridley, the fierce and cruel cyborg-pirate-space-dragon, who terrorizes the galaxy. He was once made only out of organic tissue, but after his death his body was retooled by Dr. Eggman, and he was brought back to life with a newfound power. Maybe his mechanical body has driven him to insanity?

The Headless Knight, an abomination of nature created by the fiendish Dracula. Once known as the Black Knight, and perhaps the weakest link of the six villains, he has lost his head, literally… and potentially mentally as well. Could it be that his revival as an undead has given him a certain hunger for brains?

The six villains stared at each other, each cautious of the others. The traitor could be any one of them… but they did not know who.

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Alive: 6
Sasaki Kojiro
Askthepizzaguy
Shinseikhaan
Khazaar
Yaropolk (Rebuilt)
Beefy (Revived)

Dead: 32
Sasaki Kojiro (RAAM)
Jolt
Glenn (Orochi)
White_Eyes
GeneralHankerchief
Greyblades
Ichigo (Black Shadow)
pevergreen
Reenk Roink
YLC
A Very Super Market
Lord Winter
Psychonaut
Quintus.JC
llf829 (Wrath of Slots)
Captain Blackadder
shlin28
SernoSerbo (Wrath of Kirby)
El Diablo
taka
Thermal Mercury
Splitpersonality (Again.)
LittleGrizzly
Glenn (Wrath of a God)
Yoyoma
AggonyDuck
Gobbledygook
TheFluffyOne (Wrath of Luigi)
Diana Abnoba
navarro
Olavi
Ichigo

Day 12 Begins

[Splitpersonality]

Interesting.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Just waiting on Khazaar's results, then we can proceed.... with a ROAR.

[shlin28]

*cue suspenseful music*

YOU CAN DO IT MARIO AND LINK!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Mario and Link? Unlikely, and I can show why.

There are 4 people confirmed innocent. That would make Beefy and Yaropolk both guilty. And that means they could have both targeted their chosen defendee last night and it would have been 2 versus 2 with a mafia win. And if Sephiroth is investigation immune, that means he still could have targeted someone last night.

I recommend, if the results came back inconclusive on Yaropolk, we do a final investigation on Beefy and then we take our chances and lynch someone.

Roar... but still waiting on Khazaar.

[shlin28]

Then I think you will be very surprised when the game ends

[Diana Abnoba]

Very interesting indeed, and confusing. I would think that the game would be over, everyone of the Villains left were already investigated, were they not? Do we have an investigator that gets false results, or is someone able to give a false result on themselves? This is becoming frustrating.

[Chaotix]

These are all sorts of clarifications that I sent to ATPG via pm when he asked. I think it would be unfair not to let everyone else playing the game know these- they could be working under false assumptions. Here they are: most of ATPG's words have been taken out as requested, only the parts that I directly answer are included for reference.

I'm going to say that, by the rules, it is possible for mafia to be revived, and for townies to change sides. The two events could coincide with each other. However, that is not at all necessarily the case.

1. Our investigator has been able to find heroes and serial killers, and the host confirmed we should be able to trust him. So Khazaar should be cleared.
4. Shinseikhaan was cleared via investigation by someone who was cleared by the host. Though you did day his investigation was weaker somehow, but still... infallible?
5. Beefy has been defending Khazaar in the writeups.
6. Meta-Ridley hasn't done what I asked, apparently, because it's NOT in the writeups.
7. Ichigo was investigated already. He wasn't doing anything that night but sleeping, apparently.

I have said that Eggman's investigations are infallible. They are, but I'm going to define "infallible" in the context that I use it. Everything I mention in his investigation results is true. However, that doesn't mean the way that one would interpret them is true. In other words, you cannot assume things are true based on the wording of the write-up. You can only take what is explicitly stated to be true.

WHY would our "investigator" revive anyone?

Do not think of it as "Eggman revived someone". Rather, you can think of Meta-Ridley's rebuilding as a "story event" that can take place only if the character(s) that would have the skills necessary to rebuild him are still alive.

Yaropolk's Meta-Ridley hasn't been in the writeups blocking or defending anyone for several nights.

Meta-Ridley isn't featured blocking, as he claims, and as is the case with all of my write-ups (I hope there aren't exceptions), because his claimed actions are not connected in the "chain of Night Actions" to a kill.

I hope all this clarification and suggestion helps. Pm me again if you want more explanations, but as always I cannot be as detailed as you would want me to be for the sake of neutrality.

[Jolt]

It is Yaropolk.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Weren't you Wario? I.e. one of the Guild of Antiheroes? That cult that isn't aligned "villain"?

ROAR!!!

I will not hear your lies.

[Khazaar]

Allright, Metaridley is a true Villain, hes absolutly loyal. Only a different revive could have changed that(other circumstances). I think we should take the time for me to check everyone, we lynch ATPG by day (who is immune) and do nothing by night.

Cleared so far (with up to date results): Khaan, ATPG and Yaropolk.

Still to be checked, Saskai and Beefy...

Right now I think the Hero is afraid to use a kill because it would immediately give away his identity. He´s probably going to wait for us to kill someone for him, taking the chance that it might be him. Unless my two remaining checkups reveal something we need to guesstimate.

[Beefy187]

Allright, Metaridley is a true Villain, hes absolutly loyal. Only a different revive could have changed that(other circumstances). I think we should take the time for me to check everyone, we lynch ATPG by day (who is immune) and do nothing by night.

Cleared so far (with up to date results): Khaan, ATPG and Yaropolk.

Still to be checked, Saskai and Beefy...

Right now I think the Hero is afraid to use a kill because it would immediately give away his identity. He´s probably going to wait for us to kill someone for him, taking the chance that it might be him. Unless my two remaining checkups reveal something we need to guesstimate.

I'm fine with being investigated

Shall we do a No lynch vote then?

[Askthepizzaguy]

ROAR! I don't think it works that way. I believe no lynch is not an option.

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

[Beefy187]

ROAR! I don't think it works that way. I believe no lynch is not an option.

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

Righteo.

Unvote,Vote: ATPG aka the invincible turtle.

[Jolt]

Weren't you Wario? I.e. one of the Guild of Antiheroes? That cult that isn't aligned "villain"?

ROAR!!!

I will not hear your lies.

Antihero:
Anti = Against
Hero = Mafia (In this game)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yeah, well pardon, but if they were a cult, and they are all wiped out, and the villains are the townies, what is the point of having a guild of antiheroes?

They weren't on our side. I'm not sure what you fellows hope to accomplish. Bowser says he will flatten all of you, dead or alive... you're all going down.

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Khazaar

Here's my reasononing: we have everybody, through some way or another, "cleared". Either by detective result or Sasaki being in Pizza's PM. And yet, the game is not over. Clearly, our results are, in some way, compromised. Further, IF(since I'm pretty much shooting in the dark afterall) Khazaar was the bad guy... it seems he wouldn't be able to rat any innocents out, since those who are anti-heroes or heroes seem to be pretty labeled in the writeup. If was to rat out any innocents, he would be instantly nailed by the writeup. And, of course, if any of his "pet projects" happened to be guilty as well, he could just come up with a pro-town result from them.

Basically, I see a logjam. And Khazaar seems to me to be the only one who could be causing the plug. I know I could be wrong(heavens knows i've been wrong plenty of times thus far), but this is the most logical choice, methinks.

[Askthepizzaguy]

My role PM clears both Eggman and Ganondorf. And after repeated discussions with the host, I've confirmed that they have nothing to gain by betraying the villains.

-Bowser

[seireikhaan]

My role PM clears both Eggman and Ganondorf. And after repeated discussions with the host, I've confirmed that they have nothing to gain by betraying the villains.

-Bowser

Could you post those discussions with Chaotix, please?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Rules: (Post number one) -Quoting of all pms is allowed, unless I say otherwise in a specific pm. It obviously may not be the best strategy, though...

Askthepizzaguy:

You are Bowser, the King of the Koopa, and the main villain from the Mario series.

You have joined Dr. Eggman and Ganondorf as the leaders of the Council of Villains, because creating the Super Vague Weapon of Ambiguously Decided Doom will allow you to finally defeat Mario, kidnap Princess Peach, and claim your rightful place as the King of the Mushroom Kingdom. You know that you can trust both of them completely; there is no chance that they are traitors to the Council.

Your alignment is Villain. (Town)

Your special ability is this: Due to your huge physique and tough, spine-covered shell, you can survive nearly any attack. This makes you Invulnerable to any attack, whether it be lynch, murder, or vigilante kill. However, such power comes at a price- the price of utter stupidity. In order to keep your invincibility, you must make it clear, through words, gestures, or exclamations, such as “RAWR” or “Gwahahar!” that you are Bowser in every single post you make. Should you fail to do this, your invincibility will be lost.

Good luck, Bowser, and smash all those who would oppose you to tiny bits.

Your original role pm.

You would trust me, wouldn't you?

Is there NO chance that they could become traitors, even though they weren't at the time of my role PM?

Not a chance. You three are the top supervillains; you already have all the power, and you wouldn't need to betray each other to gain it.

I recommend everyone post their role PMs.

And, to maintain my invulnerability: ROOOOAAAARRRR!!!!

As you can see, this game has been rather trying on my patience, and yours, to have to post a Bowser reference in every post to maintain my power.

[seireikhaan]

'Khaan:

You are Sephiroth, the main villain of Final Fantasy VII.

You are unsure why you have been brought to this place. Surely you do not need some machine’s help to kill that pathetic Cloud Strife. Still, you see in the other villains here that they are not so different from yourself, despite being infinitely weaker. Surely they must be the ones who need help here…

Your alignment is Villain (Town)

You have decided that nothing will get done if the Council has to sit around and vote on who they think the traitor is every day. You yourself, being all-powerful, will take matters into your own hands and crush whoever you believe is the traitor during the night. And if you happen to be wrong- which surely you won’t be- then you can just kill someone else the next night. A few dead weaklings are sometimes needed to spur on the growth of the rest… and you have no qualms about killing.

Destroy the traitors, Sephiroth. You don’t need anyone else’s help.

There we go.

[Splitpersonality]

Perhaps 'khaan is trying to shift blame off himself?

[Beefy187]

Vote: Khazaar

Here's my reasononing: we have everybody, through some way or another, "cleared". Either by detective result or Sasaki being in Pizza's PM. And yet, the game is not over. Clearly, our results are, in some way, compromised. Further, IF(since I'm pretty much shooting in the dark afterall) Khazaar was the bad guy... it seems he wouldn't be able to rat any innocents out, since those who are anti-heroes or heroes seem to be pretty labeled in the writeup. If was to rat out any innocents, he would be instantly nailed by the writeup. And, of course, if any of his "pet projects" happened to be guilty as well, he could just come up with a pro-town result from them.

Basically, I see a logjam. And Khazaar seems to me to be the only one who could be causing the plug. I know I could be wrong(heavens knows i've been wrong plenty of times thus far), but this is the most logical choice, methinks.

If Eggman is a hero
Then he would fake the investigation report and toss it up for the lynch.

Also, the fact that theres been no kill is just really strange. Clearly given enough time, Eggman can just investigate everysingle one of us.

So either the remaining hero doesn't know that they are a hero (Meta Ridley is cleared.. Which leaves me if there has been a allignment change), or one of the cleared innocent (Eggman, Ganondolf, Bowser) is guilty, as they can benefit from the wait.

If I turn out innocent, then I suggest we lynch/ Kill

Sasaki
Khazaar

In that order.

I've downloaded the pm as my pm box were too full. So if the format is different thats why.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

From : Chaotix27
To : Beefy187
Date : 2009-04-10 08:44
Title : Council of Villains Role PM
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Black Knight:

You are the Black Knight, a fierce warrior encased in dark armor, and a recurring villain in the Fire Emblem series.

You are unsure what kind of strange magic may have brought you here, but you are certain that it can only assist your goals. The Super Vague Weapon of Ambiguously Decided Doom will allow you to destroy Ike and the Greil Mercenaries. You, being nearly invincible inside your armor, have decided to do everything you can to help the Council.

Your alignment is Villain. (Town)

Every night phase, you are able to defend one other villain from harm. This will keep them from being killed, but also from being investigated or blocked, so be careful that you do not conflict with other villains while you protect.

Show the traitors the true power of a dread knight!

[Askthepizzaguy]

That doesn't clear Shinseikhaan anyway. It's been confirmed that alignments can shift in this game, and that's precisely why I wanted to know for sure that Sasaki and Khazaar were absolutely unable to alignment shift. Same here. If Sephiroth cannot kill me and I can't be lynched or murdered, then I have to be on the town's side.

That leaves Khaan, who was clearly affected by being burnt to a crisp by the maniac Kefka. I think his alignment shifted then, and in a way that our investigator couldn't detect because he doesn't get guilty or innocent results, he gets descriptive results which can sometimes be vague.

As for the investigation result on Khaan, it said:

Tonight, you decided to investigate Sephiroth. You knew he would be challenging another villain on the rooftop, so you took your Floating Egg there to see the fight first-hand. To your annoyance, the Headless Knight tagged along, too.

When you arrived, it looked like it was Sephiroth as usual. He has been killing villains this whole time in order to find the traitors. Now it appeared the traitors were gone after Luigi's death, but apparently this wasn't so true when the carnage inflicted upon Bowser Jr. was found prior to your leaving.

Sephiroth seemed to be the same as he usually was was hunting his prey... he was a bit more malicious than usual, but perhaps this was only due to his scarred face, and the bitterness it had brought him. Either way, you can't get much more bitter and malicious than Sephiroth. He also failed to kill the Arbiter, now for the second time. Perhaps he's losing his touch? Or maybe it's the Arbiter, and not him...

Either way, tonight was an interesting night, to be sure- you're lucky you survived it, too. At this rate, you can probably predict a one out of four chance of being caught in the crossfire the next time this happens.

More references to his bitterness and his face. I don't trust Sephiroth. With a clear result on Yaropolk, and the ability to block Beefy, I actually suggest that we lynch Sephiroth now.

unvote, vote: Shinseikhaan

Bowser says: Time to die... Kefka.

[Beefy187]

mmkay.

Unvote, Vote: Khaan

[Splitpersonality]

Do it bowser, you said you would when the time came.

I trusted you for that reason, and i'm sure we all did.

No kill last night, because he had no orders, correct? Drop him while you still can.

[Yaropolk]

I agree with ATPG
vote: Khan