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    Default Kosher folks of the .ORG!

    I have amazing news. Finally, you guys can enjoy bacon too!

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    You can thank me later.
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    Default Re: Kosher folks of the .ORG!

    WAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!

    Also, see here for the first ever Bacon Salt commercial.

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    Default Re: Kosher folks of the .ORG!

    They had to give in at some time, they were late but we will forgive them for their wrongdoings. Going to order me some of that stuff. And what is up with american interiors get some class ffs.

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    Talking Re: Kosher folks of the .ORG!

    If this was true, I will consider to give my moslem girlfriend a tasty bacon-flavoured steak (can be beef or lamb)

    Great idea anyway... Bacon is delicious, too bad not all of us can taste it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
    If this was true, I will consider to give my moslem girlfriend a tasty bacon-flavoured steak (can be beef or lamb)
    It is real. I don't think it's Halal, just Kosher.

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    Default Re: Kosher folks of the .ORG!

    Heheheh... in anyway... I will try to give her some tasty bacon... don't worry, I will just move the "baconed salt" content into a normal table salt tube... so she will ignore it....
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    Default Re: Kosher folks of the .ORG!

    Put it on dog steak

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    I think if something is Kosher it is also Halal but the opposite is not true...not sure though.

    Anyway bacon is worth going to Hell for so I do not see the point.
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    heck, this isnt something nerw. MorningStar Farms also makes fake bacon that my friends who dont keep kosher says tastes similar to the real thing.
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    Meh, if I was keeping my diet kosher/was fasting, I would not eat it. It defeats the whole purpose of kosher/keeping a fast. The purpose is sacrifice, or at least for the fasting part. One is akin to a lawyer looking for those legal loopholes by searching for all these replacements. Faith is not about this. If there is a God, he would not like this. Then again, I am an atheist, but that is beside the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    Meh, if I was keeping my diet kosher/was fasting, I would not eat it. It defeats the whole purpose of kosher/keeping a fast. The purpose is sacrifice, or at least for the fasting part. One is akin to a lawyer looking for those legal loopholes by searching for all these replacements. Faith is not about this. If there is a God, he would not like this. Then again, I am an atheist, but that is beside the point.
    way to miss the idea behind jews keeping kosher...
    maybe when i have more time ill explain in etail WHY jews keep kosher.
    but it has nothing to do with sacrifice.
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    Why?

    If you're not eating pig you need a good reason. IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post
    way to miss the idea behind jews keeping kosher...
    maybe when i have more time ill explain in etail WHY jews keep kosher.
    but it has nothing to do with sacrifice.
    No need for that. There is a reason why I said "at least for the fasting part". I have an idea of what it is. Supposedly kosher diet is good for you and it helped the Jews avoid certain poisonous fares, such as the part about not eating any aquatic life that does not have scales. I still think however that one is committing a sin by desiring those foods that are forbidden and going through great lengths to obtain replacements.

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    not the full reason.
    also has to do with avoiding assimilation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post
    not the full reason.
    also has to do with avoiding assimilation.


    I wish I had been at that meeting. +1 for still speaking yiddish.
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    seriously. one of the reasons why judaism has survived for many centuries is because of keeping kosher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post
    seriously. one of the reasons why judaism has survived for many centuries is because of keeping kosher.
    Hmmm, I always though circumcision had a larger impact. Or at least equal.

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    not nearly as much as kosher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    Supposedly kosher diet is good for you and it helped the Jews avoid certain poisonous fares, such as the part about not eating any aquatic life that does not have scales.
    There is no agreement on the purpose of Kashrut. It's not explicitly stated in the Torah. It could be an arbitrary test of faith, to seperate Jews from other cultures, a guideline for healthy eating, or other reasons unknowable.

    Quote Originally Posted by rasoforos
    I think if something is Kosher it is also Halal but the opposite is not true...not sure though.
    It's not that simple. Kashrut and Halal laws overlap in some areas but there's nothing hard and fast like "Kosher = Halal."
    Due to the ailing economy, this space has been foreclosed.

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    The assimilation argument is weak...

    ...We avoided assimilation and we didn't have to chop bits of our anaconda off or stop eating gyros...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rasoforos View Post
    The assimilation argument is weak...

    ...We avoided assimilation and we didn't have to chop bits of our anaconda off or stop eating gyros...
    no its been the thing which has kept us apart form the others. why do you think so many reform/conservative jews have lost most/all connections with judaism? they dont keep kosher. look at the pagan religions. they died out, they didnt keep kosher.
    the reason why judaism has gone on for so many ages is because G-D told us to remain separate from the others. not all separate, but mostly. of course, there are extremes, like the ultra-orthodox, who close themselves off in a bubble from the outside world.
    i am what is known as Modern Orthodox. we maintain a healthy connection with the outside world, yet are still orthodox in our religious beliefs.
    maybe a thread explaining judaism is in order?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post

    look at the pagan religions. they died out, they didnt keep kosher.
    I do not like being called Pagan but you are not saying it with malice.

    Anyway I will have to respectfully disagree that food restrictions play nearly an equal part to non-assimilation as a strong culture, literature and national integrity. However I really like the way you defend your opinion, I ll give you that.
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    you are pagan? cool!
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    Well...I am an atheist...but if I just had to believe in something I would be a believer of the ancient Greek religion.

    So that makes me a pagan atheist...or something like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post
    maybe a thread explaining judaism is in order?
    Have some (extremely limited grasp) of christianity and the islam but I know absolutely zip about judaism, so explain away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Have some (extremely limited grasp) of christianity and the islam but I know absolutely zip about judaism, so explain away.
    Ummm, Wikipedia anyone? Really, would I would trust it more. Wikipedia and Google exist for a reason after all, and I do believe they can explain things better than any single person, no offence Hooah. I am sure hooah is a great priamry source, and he is Orthodox, the best and purest form of Judaism IMHO, but he may miss out on points or have his personal interpretations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    Ummm, Wikipedia anyone? Really, would I would trust it more. Wikipedia and Google exist for a reason after all, and I do believe they can explain things better than any single person, no offence Hooah. I am sure hooah is a great priamry source, and he is Orthodox, the best and purest form of Judaism IMHO, but he may miss out on points or have his personal interpretations.
    Only that much use for wiki, there is informing and explaining imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    Ummm, Wikipedia anyone? Really, would I would trust it more. Wikipedia and Google exist for a reason after all, and I do believe they can explain things better than any single person, no offence Hooah. I am sure hooah is a great priamry source, and he is Orthodox, the best and purest form of Judaism IMHO, but he may miss out on points or have his personal interpretations.
    Speaking as one of those reform Jews who has lost most of his connections to the religion, hooahguy is generally correct in his statements. My perception of Kosher is that it is kept because of tradition. It always has been, so it always will be, that kind of thing. Sacrifice was never an aspect of it that I was ever taught. That said, I wouldn't put quite as much weight on the value of kosher in Jewish history as hooahguy. Jews have remained separate from other cultures and religions for many reasons, some self-imposed, some imposed by outsiders. Kosher cuisine is certainly part of this, but I wouldn't say it's the dominant reason.

    I actually think it's inappropriate to try and identify a single Jewish cuisine. Most Jewish foods are 'kosherized' versions of whatever the local fare happened to be. A lot of what most people consider to be Jewish food is really just a sub-class of Slavic foods that were understandably dominant for the Ashkenazi. If you go to the old Jewish ghettos in Spain or Italy, or find a Beta Israel family i, you will find them eating Kosher variants of Spanish, Italian, and Ethiopian cuisine, respectively. Latkas, pastrami, and gefilte fish are more widely associated as Jewish foods simply because the Ashkenazi are the dominant Jewish community. There's nothing about the religion itself that makes people eat that stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
    If this was true, I will consider to give my moslem girlfriend a tasty bacon-flavoured steak (can be beef or lamb)
    Lol got exactly the same thing going on. Stupid Halal reglementations.

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    I doubt being kosher has been whats saved Judaism.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

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