3 Pittsburgh Police Officers Murdered

[Husar]

Also, guns are not the cure all and end all to resisting government, but they sure as hell make things a lot easier. And I think that an ungovernable mod with guns will have fewer casualties against the gov. troops then just an ungovernable mob.

I don't think the point of being ungovernable is to engage in a deadly confrontation. It's something you do before the government starts using deadly force against it's citizens to prevent it from happening in the first place. One could even say that americans just let it all happen and wait until it comes to said deadly confrontation while the french populace extinguish all sorts of bad government policies before it even comes to that. Or in other words, Americans may wait until it's already too late because "we got these gunz if it gets too bad" is too convenient an excuse while the french are aware they have to keep the government in check at all times before it even gets close to being really bad.

[Tribesman]

These posts made me sad, because I know they're true....

One of the best comments I have read here .
If you are ever out west in the banana republic without the bananas have a good drink on me at Hughes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBpAiKlesTU

[a completely inoffensive name]

I don't think the point of being ungovernable is to engage in a deadly confrontation. It's something you do before the government starts using deadly force against it's citizens to prevent it from happening in the first place. One could even say that americans just let it all happen and wait until it comes to said deadly confrontation while the french populace extinguish all sorts of bad government policies before it even comes to that. Or in other words, Americans may wait until it's already too late because "we got these gunz if it gets too bad" is too convenient an excuse while the french are aware they have to keep the government in check at all times before it even gets close to being really bad.

Government won't relinquish power unless forced to. And yes, guns nowadays are probably used as a crutch while the gov still does what it wants, but that is just because of a lack of understanding about the origins and ideals of the country. Most people don't know the purpose of most of the amendments including the 2nd amendment. This is why I can't understand why education is always the first to be cut.

The 2nd amendment is to secure guns for the populace to help the citizens overthrow the government when it gets too powerful and too abusive.

For some reason it is mostly interpreted nowadays as:

The 2nd amendment is to secure guns for the populace to help the citizens overthrow the government if it gets too powerful and too abusive.

The first one holds that you must remain vigilant because at any time to may need to take up your gun against bad government which is inevitable as time goes on and it becomes bigger.

The second one holds that the guns are the main deterrent against bad government and as long as we have them we are safe from them. Which just isn't true.

[Husar]

Government won't relinquish power unless forced to.[...]This is why I can't understand why education is always the first to be cut.

Doesn't the government cut education? You may have answered your own question.

There are however ways to make them do it without guns, courts, protests and a lot of public pressure can do that until the government actually suppresses these things which is what people should not let happen, guns or not.