comeback of defeated factions?

**lenin96** · 04-09-2009, 09:03

But if Epeiros rebelled in real life would they have possibly came back as a faction? The same with the Romani and Kart-Hadast.

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 04-09-2009, 20:46

There will be no emerging factions in EB and definately no shadow factions. Being a possible player in 272 or just afterwards was one of the considerations for factions being added to EBII. The semi-permanent faction list has already been decided upon and work has gone into these factions.

Depending on what it requires to make a faction re-emerge is what will decide if there will be reemerging factions. At one point I heard that in order to have a reemerging faction it required the faction to be hording. It would be kind of stupid if the Seleukids conquer the last Ptolemaic settlement and thousands of Ptolemaic soldiers appear out of nowhere and start to wander the map.

**Shadowwalker** · 04-09-2009, 21:53

Exactly.

That's the main point why I don't want a "civilized" faction to have the ability to re-emerge.
Nomads, Gauls or German... yes. Caesar got some pretty surprises out of the fact that it didn't suffice to conquer the settlements since his opponents just left them and walked away.

It would still be a very annoying feature (at least to me) but it wouldn't be a fantasy feature.
If Seleucids or Macedons would horde ... well, I believe, such features are to expect in EF (Europa Fantasmagorum) but not in EB.

**Leão magno** · 04-10-2009, 14:17

But re-emerging would be really nice to all the factions if hording is not required. Even if it is required it would be possible to some factions that were nomads