Just how messed up is Israel?

**Fragony** · 04-07-2009, 15:31

Originally Posted by HoreTore

The crime of terrorism? If you want a specific one, there's a bunch of them to choose from.

Sure there are but on a scale like that, been a while. You see arab-Israeli have the same rights as jewish-Israeli, not a racist state. There are problems, yes. Having to be afraid a rocket lands on your head does that to people but I guess that only applies for Palestinians.

**HoreTore** · 04-07-2009, 16:16

Originally Posted by Fragony

You see arab-Israeli have the same rights as jewish-Israeli, not a racist state.

They do? Enjoy reading this.

Institutional, legal, and societal discrimination against Israeli Arabs, non-Orthodox Jews, and other religious groups continued.

The government maintained unequal educational systems for Arab and Jewish students.

But, I guess the Bush administration were lost in "leftie lalaland".... Those darn hippies.

**Fragony** · 04-07-2009, 16:23

So? We native dutch are discriminated against every day. No problem if muslim immigrants cheer 'all jews on the gas', if I would say something similar about muslims I would be mauled by the red machine until I cough up blood. If Israel is a racist state so is just about every western nation.

edit: didn't even click on article when I posted that, 'occupied territory', says enough. A country occupying land after a war that it didn't even provoke, outragious who would have thought. There is no official peace it's a cease fire. Within Israel's borders arabs have the same rights. Outside Israel's borders 'rights' lol.

**HoreTore** · 04-07-2009, 16:26

Originally Posted by Fragony

We native dutch

Cry me a river, hippie.

**Hooahguy** · 04-07-2009, 16:39

horetore, i love it how you call israel a racist state. i suppose you think its apartheid as well?
i wish i could respond more to this, but im leaving soon for NY for passover.
ah well.
try not to let the insults close this thing down before i get back in 2 weeks.
ha, like thats likely!

**Fragony** · 04-07-2009, 16:42

Originally Posted by HoreTore

Cry me a river, hippie.

bleed me one, that is what the Palestinians want after all.

**Tribesman** · 04-07-2009, 17:47

edit: didn't even click on article when I posted that, 'occupied territory', says enough.

Errrr ...it says Israel and the occupied territories

, but if you bother to read it instead of just dismissing it because obviously it proves you completely wrong you will find that it only deals with human rights in Israel itself and there is a seperate document that details the human rights problems in the occupied territories .

A country occupying land after a war that it didn't even provoke

Is that the occupied land from the war that started when Israel attacked its neighbours ?

Within Israel's borders arabs have the same rights.

You really havn't got a clue have you , within Israels borders even Jews don't have the same rights if they are the "wrong" kind of Jew .

Well done Hore , only someone with their head up their posterior would really try and counter that , and only someone with their head stuck so far up there for so long that they have forgotten what daylight is would attempt to counter it without even reading it .

**Fragony** · 04-07-2009, 18:13

1 i know it does, could it be that that is why I mentioned it.
2 well obviously not.
3 all the same for the law, ethiopian jews as well.

3 in a row, congratulations that qualifies as a faillure spree.