Vermont Legalizes Gay Marriage

**Lemur** · 04-09-2009, 17:53

Another cup of hot, frothy crazy from the wingnuts: Connecting the Dots: The Link Between Gay Marriage and Mass Murders.

**rvg** · 04-09-2009, 17:59

Originally Posted by Lemur

Another cup of hot, frothy crazy from the wingnuts: Connecting the Dots: The Link Between Gay Marriage and Mass Murders.

Makes sense to me. According to the author, propagation of gay marriage is an indicator of the moral decline, and moral decline within the society causes mass murders. Arguable, but plausible. He even explicitly states that he does *not* believe that gay rights somehow cause mass murders.

**Lemur** · 04-09-2009, 18:45

Originally Posted by rvg

He even explicitly states that he does *not* believe that gay rights somehow cause mass murders.

In an article titled "Connecting the Dots: The Link Between Gay Marriage and Mass Murders." Why does this strike me as a classic case of "I'm not saying, but I'm saying ..."?

**rvg** · 04-09-2009, 18:50

Originally Posted by Lemur

In an article titled "Connecting the Dots: The Link Between Gay Marriage and Mass Murders." Why does this strike me as a classic case of "I'm not saying, but I'm saying ..."?

I think you're reading a bit too much into this. He suses gay marriage merely as an indicator of the moral degradation in our society. Then he explicitly blames the *moral degradation* for the mass murders. In other words, both gay marriage and mass murders stem from the same cause (moral degradation), but gay marriage doesn't cause mass murders any more than mass murders cause gay marriage.

**Lemur** · 04-09-2009, 18:57

RVG, were Vlad the Impaler and Elizabeth Bathory also the result of moral decay? Last I checked they lived in a world where one man marries one woman, and the church's commandments were law. How about Ed Gein? He was alive during the yesteryear that most history-impaired people hearken back to, the 1940s and 50s.

It's an absurd argument, and one that crotchety old coots have been making since before the city-state of Athens was founded. "We were much more noble before that darn Parthenon got built! Kids these days don't know a proper sacrifice to Zeus from a broken sandal!"

I can count on two constants in this world: Things keep improving and people keep complaining that everything's going to hell.

**rvg** · 04-09-2009, 18:59

Originally Posted by Lemur

So were Vlad the Impaler and Elizabeth Bathory also the result of moral decay? Last I checked they lived in a world where one man marries one woman, and the church's commandments were law. How about Ed Gein? He was alive during the yesteryear that most history-impaired people hearken back to, the 1940s and 50s.

It's an absurd argument, and one that crotchety old coots have been making since before the city/state of Athens was founded. "We were much more noble before that darn Parthenon got built! Kids these days don't know a proper sacrifice to Zeus from a broken sandal!"

I can count on two constants in this world: Things keep improving and people keep complaining that everything's going to hell.

I wouldn't call it absurd. Weak perhaps. Nonetheless, it is not entirely without merit.