Player Chatroom (Off-Character Discussion)

[The Celtic Viking]

Everyone, you have yourself put down as a Demarchos in your SOT, which is incorrect. For anyone to get it, I must first suggest it to the Synedrion, which then has to agree with it.

Mini, you've included a build queue in your SOT, when you don't control the building (nor the recruitment) queue of Pella. As it is right now, I (and to the extent that I allow him to, John) am the only one who decides that. As a little hint, this may change come next session, especially if someone actually notifies IC his interest in governing a settlement.

By the way, Maion, should I include the sea trade and mine income (if any) in my SOT?

[johnhughthom]

I have just assumed I'm governor of Korinthos, is this the case TCV?
What exactly is the purpose of our incomes Maion? Is it simply for bragging rights, or have you plans for utilizing it further down the line? Do we all have to specify heirs for when our characters die for passing money on, or will it all disappear?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Into the Basileus pocket.

[Iskander 3.1]

Probably for later on if there's a civil war.

[Maion Maroneios]

By the way, Maion, should I include the sea trade and mine income (if any) in my SOT?

You could do that.

I have just assumed I'm governor of Korinthos, is this the case TCV?
What exactly is the purpose of our incomes Maion? Is it simply for bragging rights, or have you plans for utilizing it further down the line? Do we all have to specify heirs for when our characters die for passing money on, or will it all disappear?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Into the Basileus pocket.

Loans, later a sicil war, maintaining an army of your own etc.

Maion

[/Bean\]

Its good having incomes...means some chracters will be more important than others because those with large ambitions may not have much money, and there may be some very rich but ultimately weak characters

[johnhughthom]

I noticed the change in heir TCV mentioned in his save report before, I thought Maion had done that as it seems more sensible for the Basileus' son to be heir so I didn't mention it. I guess we should have debated the heir in the Synedrion session. Oh well, we can do it next time. I don't mind being heir again, now where's that hemlock...

[The Celtic Viking]

I have just assumed I'm governor of Korinthos, is this the case TCV?

Well... no - currently there are no governors. However, since I haven't specified anything to be done and given you the choice, you're technically doing what you would have done as one anyway.

As for the heir, I decide that myself with no need to consult anyone about it. There was no need to take it up.

Edit: By the way, was that "it goes into the Basileus' pocket" an answer to what happens with the money? Or was that a guess?

[johnhughthom]

Edit: By the way, was that "it goes into the Basileus' pocket" an answer to what happens with the money? Or was that a guess?

Twas a joke, not a funny one, but a joke nonetheless.
As for my comments on the heir, it came about from a confused reading of the rules, to be honest I'm still not sure what they say. It seems when the Basileus dies there is to be a vote on the new Basileus, which of course doesn't work with the RTW engine. Of course the fact it's nearly 2am may just mean I'm getting confused about something simple...

[The Celtic Viking]

Well, the way I understand it after taking another look at the rules...

The default person for being the Kleronomos Basileus is the eldest son. The Basileus can change that at any time he pleases. I believe then that Maion did indeed change it for this reason, and my charge of it being "illegal" were thus incorrect. However, Krateros is now the legal heir. If I need to proclaim that in another thread (than the save games one), I will do so.

In any case, when Antigonos dies, the Kleronomos Basileios (currently that's your character, Krateros) will automatically be presented as a candidate to be the next Basileus. If anyone else wish to run for it, they can announce it publicly, and the Synedrion will then hold a vote. If tied, a new vote will be held. If it ties again, the last king's favourite - the KB - is elected.

What the Kleronomos Basileios rank seem to do, is simply give you a royal army of your own to command, make you an automatic candidate for the Basileus' successor and give you a slight benefit if someone else challenges that.

What I don't understand is how this is going to be handled in-game. If Antigonos dies now, Krateros will automatically be made the new Basileus immediately. If, say, Alkyoneus then challenges Krateros for it and he wins the vote, how will he be made the Basileus in-game? Is there a cheat that can change the current faction leader without killing him?

[everyone]

Everyone, you have yourself put down as a Demarchos in your SOT, which is incorrect. For anyone to get it, I must first suggest it to the Synedrion, which then has to agree with it.

oh I had assumed that Kalos was, since on the registration thread, he was listed as "Position: Governor of Demetrias" so I had assumed that he's a demarchos. I'll just edit out that line in my SOT.

[Maion Maroneios]

TCV, I think I've already included this in the rules. If, say, someone else except the set FH is elected as a Basileus, I will take the savegame just before the end of the turn, change the FH, and kill the FL through a console command.

Maion

[/Bean\]

Pyrrhus left without a fight? What do we do?

[Maion Maroneios]

Be patient. I'm sure TCV will figure something out.

Maion

[The Celtic Viking]

I would say that with Pyrrhos outside of our lands, the first part of Edict E1.2 is rendered null and void, and we should continue with the second part: propose a peace treaty with him. If that succeeds, it seems only prudent if I turn back towards Athens again. Though I will probably wait until next spring to do that then, and perhaps camp on the borders or somewhere between Thessalia and Makedonia in case barbarians will come from the north or whatever. (I know they won't, but Atigonos don't. )

Now, where's that diplomat when you need him...

Edit: Ah, no one's playing the diplomat. Oh well, john, could you do that when you take the save?

[/Bean\]

How do we roleplay why he turned around. Bit of an anti-climax